Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread]

[Robert]

When everybody is ready.

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

Bravo Arabia for getting the stories going in the new thread! I haven't read it yet but I'm sure its great Anyway thanks RP for doing the votes, and starting a new story thread. I was beginning to think it was over, so I thought I would add a nice long endcap, but thankfully it seems I was premature.

@ Inca - I would say either one of us could handle gifting the cities to Mali and Israel. Israel gets Ai, Mali gets the rest. The capital of Zulu is right next to Mali so I guess they can just DoW and capture that right?

Any idea when the game will be restarted?

[Robert]

Time to Vote!
We vote for the happenings of this thread: Story Thread 10 (July) and Story Thread 11 (August)

You can vote right here (please read instructions below first)

Voting ENDS October 31th end of the day

This vote will carry the weight of 3 votes! (b/c we vote for 3 months, July, August and September)

1. go to the site
2. click your civilization name
3. fill out the password you once selected in the civ-picker (the original password of your DoE account at Apolyton)
4. Vote!

You have to award EXACTLY 20 points in both categories or you can't submit.
You can give comments to every individual civ.

This is what the rules say about voting:

After every month all players are invited to vote on the stories and role playing of all players.
Using a special web application a total of 20 'points' can be assigned, with a max of 5 points per player.

The 2 categories:
- Story Telling
Story telling is about how a player tells the story of his civilization and how he communicates with other leaders. How he handles his characters, shows the relation between story and in-game actions, explains the behaviour hof his civ, includes graphics and images, is able to entertain it's readers, etc.

A great part of the fun of a diplo game is the creation of an amazing story thread. This contains everything from national epics to diplomacy, newspaper articles to lies, text, screenshots and images. A player gets votes for storytelling for their contribution to the story thread. There are no rules as to what marks out a good contribution - we all have different tastes - what is too much detail for one person, may be exactly what another person values, some people will give more votes to one brilliant piece than to someone who produces lots of mediocre material, someone else will value quantity more. When voting its simple - give people votes if you personally enjoy their contributions.

- Role Playing
Role Playing is about how the in-game actions and the tone of his messages reflect the role of the player. Is the fascist dictator really playing as a fascist? Does it make sence that the fanatic orthodox jewish leader has an alliance with the fanatic orthodox buddhist leader? Is the peaceful friendly leader really friendly and peaceful to his neighbours? In short: do the actions of a player compare to the story role he assigned to himself.

The definition of a diplo game is "A Diplomacy Game is a game in which all players lead their civilization as if they're leading a real nation". Under 'role-playing' people are given votes for the degree to which they do this. Is there a consistency and belieability about the actions of that civ - its in-game actions, its diplomacy, what it says about itself. What nature a civ has is up to the player to decide and to evolve as the game progresses - but they get votes for the believability and consistency of this, and the interest it gives to the game. If you act as if you are 'playing a game', you won't get many votes; but if you can give the rest of us the impression your nation actually exists, you deserve to get lots.
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Per month all points a player receives in both categories will be calculated.
Based on this a score list will be created per category.
The #1 on that score list will receive X scorepoints. (X = the number of civs in the game). The #2 will receive X-1, etc.

The rest of the score-explanation only uses examples to get the point through, but is too much to place here. Read it in the first post of this thread.
This all comes down to the following:

Based on the scorepoints everybody received in a month, a ranking can be made for that month, per category.
The #1 on that ranking receives 18 gamepoints, the #2 17 gamepoints, the #3 16 gamepoints, ..... the #18 gets 1 gamepoint.
The sum of all gamepoints for both categories for all months determines the winner.

Good luck!

[Robert]

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[Robert]

Israel doesn't want Zulu cities, you can give them all to the Mali, except that one city that used to be Israelian in the past. (which is surrounded by Israelian tiles anyway)

Does this mean that all current alliances will be void as well?
Or will this factually means that everything stays the same?
I did not see that option, so that's why I ask.

Thanks Ozzy, for stepping up.

[Mali (DoE)]

This is already happening, but just to make sure everyone is comfortable with it. Vote on whether you think it is appropriate for China to remain AI and have Japan, India, Mongolia, Russia, et al divide them up and eliminate them militarily.

Yes


ZULU PARTITION----------------------------------------------------
Someone logs in as the Zulu and gifts cities and units evenly between Israel and the Mali.

Yes



All alliance options assumes there is no Zulu or China. Even if people don't like the partition, they will still be AI and non-factors in the game. When voting for alliances and for peace options, please vote yes or no for each option, and then also indicate a preference for one. A winning option needs to have a majority accepting that option (voting yes) and a plurality preferring it.

ALLIANCE OPTION 1----------------------------------------------------

Axis (fascists):
Neandor-France-Viking-Arabia-India-Mongolia-Natives-America

Communists (or democrats):
Russia-Turkey-Inca-England-Japan-Mali


No


ALLIANCE OPTION 2----------------------------------------------------

Fascist Alliance:
Neandor-Arabia-Japan-Vikings-Egypt

Communist Alliance:
Russia-Native America-Ottomans-Mongolia-Mali

Democrat Alliance:
England-Inca-France-America-India

Yes



ALLIANCE OPTION 3----------------------------------------------------

The game continues organically from here with no enforced alliances.
No

This is my preference.


ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 1----------------------------------------------------

30 turn global non-aggression pact (not including China or Zulu).


No

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 2----------------------------------------------------

20 turn global non-aggression pact (not including China or Zulu).


No


ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 3----------------------------------------------------

10 turn global non-aggression pact (not including China or Zulu).

Yes

This is my preference.


ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 4----------------------------------------------------

No non-aggression pact. Continue as normal.


No

[Russia (DoE)]

We still have to hear from Toni, who will take the Vikings. Also, France will be back maybe today. And Natives are not said anything since this all started. But you are right - we can get moving. If Rhotaerill is around and is willing to play the Vikings and France as till now, we are somewhat ready to go.

[Japan (DoE)]

Well since Viking player left and France player is away, they won't vote. Mongolia never posts here, so he maybe isn't even aware of this, and Mali player is the same as he hasn't posted in a long time.

So please can we restart the game with those conditions, and if those others come back later and change the outcome with their vote we can just reload to the save that Russia made.

I second this!!!

[Ottoman Empire (DoE)]

Well since Viking player left and France player is away, they won't vote. Mongolia never posts here, so he maybe isn't even aware of this, and Mali player is the same as he hasn't posted in a long time.

So please can we restart the game with those conditions, and if those others come back later and change the outcome with their vote we can just reload to the save that Russia made.

[Russia (DoE)]

So far, we have the following players voted:

Voted so far:

England
Neandor
Russia
Inca
Arabs
Japan
Ottomans
America
India
Israel

Need to vote:

Native Americans
Mongolia
Mali
France
Vikings


Here are the results so far:

CHINA PARTITION----------------------------------------------------
Yes 9
No 1

ZULU PARTITION----------------------------------------------------
Yes 8
No 2

ALLIANCE OPTION 1---------------------------(2 big balanced alliances)
Yes 5
No 3

ALLIANCE OPTION 2---------------------------(3 balanced alliances)
Yes 7
No 1
Preference 3

ALLIANCE OPTION 3------------------------------(game continues naturally without set alliances)
Yes 8
No 2
Preference 5

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 1-----------------------------(30 turns universal NAP)
Yes 5
No 3
Preference 2

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 2-----------------------------(20 turns universal NAP)
Yes 6
No 3

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 3-----------------------------(10 turns universal NAP)
Yes 9
No
Preference 5

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 4-----------------------------(no forced NAP)
Yes 6
No 4
Preference 1

Looks like the partitioning China and Zulu, natural continuing of the game without forced alliances and 10 turns universal NAP are the most preferred options so far. (if I counted the votes correct )

We have 5 more nations to vote, so this can change. I just have sent PMs to remind to those, who are not yet voted. Maybe the host can remind them too?

[Robert]

people, I promised to do the votes last weekend.....
Well... I had non internet
I'm going to do it tomorrow evening (yes, more promises)

In response to Ozzy's PM:

CHINA PARTITION----------------------------------------------------
Yes

ZULU PARTITION----------------------------------------------------
Someone logs in as the Zulu and gifts cities and units evenly between Israel and the Mali.
No

I prefer Zulu to be AI.

ALLIANCE OPTION 1----------------------------------------------------
No



ALLIANCE OPTION 2----------------------------------------------------
No


ALLIANCE OPTION 3----------------------------------------------------
Yes
This is my preference.


ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 1----------------------------------------------------
No

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 2----------------------------------------------------
No

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 3----------------------------------------------------
Yes
This is my preference.

ENFORCED PEACE OPTION 4----------------------------------------------------
Yes

[Russia (DoE)]

Also, we are heard nothing from about the half of the players about their preferences for continuing the game.

[Russia (DoE)]

WarningU2 quit before even the game started.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

If I Remeber rigth He was either : Branksdilly, WarningU2 or Blackknight47, one of these players is Japan the other was Zulu so it shouldn't be hard to get ..well an other anon, but at least someone could know something.

[Russia (DoE)]

We argue here for things, but it came to me that we never found out who China was and what happened to him? I hope he just lost interest, but something tells me there is more about this