Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread]

[Japan (DoE)]

[Russia (DoE)]

Catherine is the coolest, sexiest and most magnetic chick on this Earth!

All right, we got white commie, black commie, ottoman commie, yellow commie, we got hot commie, cold commie, we got wet commie.... Come on in you commie lovers!

[Russia (DoE)]

Yeah, baby! Everyone wants to be a communist!

Bandera rossa la triumvera!

Viva communismo e liberta!

[Japan (DoE)]

Yes you have..

The proposed list was:

Fascist Alliance:
Neandor-Arabia-Vikings-India-Egypt

Communist Alliance:
Russia-Native America-Ottomans-Mongolia-Mali

Democrat Alliance:
England-Inca-America-Japan-France

And maybe even switch Japan to communist..

I dont want to be a democrat. that would leave me all alone with my closest help being on the other side of the world. I want to be traded to the communist alliance.

[Russia (DoE)]

If you really want to continue this I will stay, but I don't like the idea of these fixxed alliances especially when our views are not even close about balance. Let's restart the game and let the alliances work out for themselves-ie we try to forget past alliances and start clean (then everyone jumps on Russia :P)

good one. There was a movie (History of the World) in which King Louis is playing chess on a giant chessboard and the chess figures are alive people. The Queen is attractive and the king commands:

"Knight jumps Queen! Bishop jumps Queen! Pawns jump Queen!
Gangbang! Come on jump the Queen!"

So here your chance will be, pawns and fodders To gangbang the Queen

I think it would be much better if we would start a new game in the industrial era with advanced start with full of active players.

Joke aside, I am perfectly OK with that. I wanted to see some modern warfare action. T34 vs Panzers come in mind Battleships, submarines attacking from the gulfs, bombarding, fighters fighting in the sea... ehhh... Cat driving red sport car, short skirts, spies, etc, etc... Shame on those who ruined such a great game.

I'm also perfectly fine not being a part of an alliance only if it means I'm not going to be carved up as soon as possible by the alliance system (think Natives).

This was what I had in mind - independent banker and supplier of the world.

[Inca (DoE)]

I'm also perfectly fine not being a part of an alliance only if it means I'm not going to be carved up as soon as possible by the alliance system (think Natives).

[Arabia2 (doe)]

I think it would be much better if we would start a new game in the industrial era with advanced start with full of active players.

If you really want to continue this I will stay, but I don't like the idea of these fixxed alliances especially when our views are not even close about balance. Let's restart the game and let the alliances work out for themselves-ie we try to forget past alliances and start clean (then everyone jumps on Russia :P)

[America (DoE)]

Alliances in my opinion will only create more discussion: it causes people to once again focus on winning/balancing/etc instead of on diplogaming, ie writing stories/thinking up cool plots/etc. It also turns this game into a military thing; it will just be about an all out war, and not so much about the stories I think. I'd say, drop the alliances and let the story thread decide who allies with who.

Then again, if the majority wants the alliances, I will of course play, and I will certainly enjoy it

[Russia (DoE)]

Guys, I think we are going nowhere. We are arguing over something that we are not even agree we want - the 3-way dividing.

Not to mention I still think 3 -way will not work.

If the Axis is complaining we are overpowered in the configuration the game currently is, then exclude Inca - he is not eager to fight anyway. Let he be the universal trader and banker - he gives equal or auction terms to the two alliances - and the game continues as it was.

[Arabia2 (doe)]

Oh.. I see where it is going.. If we would win we would be told: "See Crybabies, we told you", If you would win you were just great and won against overhelming odds because the Axis is so overpowered, they just stupid and don't realize it

[Calanthian]

Yes you have..

The proposed list was:

Fascist Alliance:
Neandor-Arabia-Vikings-India-Egypt

Communist Alliance:
Russia-Native America-Ottomans-Mongolia-Mali

Democrat Alliance:
England-Inca-America-Japan-France

And maybe even switch Japan to communist..

[America (DoE)]

Wait, Arabia doesn't have oil? What?

[Russia (DoE)]

Wait, Arabia doesn't have oil? What?

Hmm.. I am quite sure Arabia wasnt there from the first time. Either someone edited this, or I am sleeping and dreaming Anyway...

[Russia (DoE)]

Please, consider also that the relative in-game-strength is one thing, the strength and determination of the players playing them is even more important. The considered pathetic India and Arabia were able to defeat the mighty Chinese army! Why? Because they are humans and they are determined, while despite having smashing advantage in units and power, China have lost being played wrong by the AI.

And what we see in the Axis - mzprox - in-game winner in the last two diplo-games. Toni - another in-game winner from previous diplo-game. Calanthian - determined and very active player. Lzprst - a civ veteran and determined active player. France player I dont know who is, but he proved able to plan and fight pretty well - Turkey and England can attest this. So what we have in the Axis - few proven champions and the rest of them are active and determined players.

What the Commies will get? Russia and Turkey - ok, we know them. But the rest? Natives - to me he looks all-round stable player, but first he lack military, then until now he NEVER showed a will to fight, nor he stained his hands with blood. He might be the bravest warrior, waiting his fury to be unleashed, and he might be a pacifist by heart, drawing aside from fight. At least his economy is decent Mali - pathetic economy, but at least he proved his spirit in fighting 2 wars. Additional bonus is he have somewhat decent army. Not near the French, but still he is not like Mongolia.

Oh, Mongolia... what to say about Mongolia... The second biggest territory and the weakest economy on this world. Even Azteca with their one city make more GPT than Mongolia. To add to this, Mongolia's army is the weakest and most outdated in this game. They have like 10 keshiks, 10 pikes and 5 catapults. Not to mention we did not hear from them since all this started, meaning they dont have much time IRL or they just lost interest in the game. Good tactician human playing Mongolia will barely make difference, what to speak about AI if their player is not playing anymore?

So what you are giving us isnt too bright, but well... We are willing to take the challenge. It was all for - right? Some guys considered themselves unfairly handicapped in this game, while we like challenges. Here is the opportunity everyone to have his part of the fun.

Vikings-Neandor-France-India-Arabia
Inca-England-Japan-America-Israel
Russia-Turkey-Natives-Mali-Mongolia

This and a bit longer NAP (20 turns?) and Open Borders, so we can discuss possible scenarios, get our forces together, get moving and our alliances working.

[Inca (DoE)]

Wait, Arabia doesn't have oil? What?