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    Destiny of Empires [Diplo Game] [Story Thread 11 - August 2011]

    This is the Story and Diplomacy Thread for the Diplo Game "Destiny of Empires" (DoE)

    The purpose of this thread is to post in-character story posts and diplomacy for this game. Please discuss all organizational aspects of this game the Organization Thread.
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    Destiny of Empires is a diplomacy game.
    The players try to rule their empires like they are real. Role playing and story telling is an important way to achieve this.
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    Hakon Mjoveson stood diffidently before Jarl Eirikson, “My lord Jarl?”

    “Yes, Hakon, what is it?” replied Jarl Eirikson softly.

    “Sir, I am wondering if you know anything about the recent events? The men and women of the military are talking about all the strangeness that has occurred.”

    “Ah, you’re speaking about the day that seemed like it would never end correct? Yes, it was very strange.” Jarl Eirikson shuddered.

    “Sir. I’ve heard many rumors.” Hakon hesitated a moment before proceeding, “Some say that it is magic. Some say that the gods of all of the various nations are angry at us. I’ve even heard some that blame it all on the Ottoman/Aztec war.”

    “Well Hakon, you’re not wrong.” Jarl Eirikson sucked in a breath and held it a moment before expelling everything in a great sigh. His shoulders slumped as he sagged in his chair. “I don’t really know how to tell you this. I probably shouldn’t tell you. I’m not even sure I believe it myself.” Jarl Eirikson sighed heavily again.

    “Whatever you tell me I will believe my lord. You have never led me wrong before.”

    “I thank you for the trust. I wish I could place the same in Mr. Wednesday.”

    Hakon looked shocked, “Mr. Wednesday sir? Why would you doubt him?”

    “During the day that wouldn’t end I was heading toward Heimdallr’s office to report to him as usual. What I saw there was so…well, I just can’t believe it. But it must be true. I saw it with my own eyes. Would that I were struck blind before entering Heimdallr’s room though.”

    Hakon leaned forward, “But sir, why?”

    “I saw, Hakon! I saw it with my own eyes! A rip in the very fabric of the world. As I examined the rip I saw 18 men on the other side. Giant, ugly men! One of them looked like Mr. Wednesday only horribly transfigured. As I thought about it I realized that each one of them looked like gruesome caricatures of all the leaders of the world. They were dressed in the colors we associated with each nation. And they were cackling greedily. As I watched, one of them pointed a ham-like finger at an army and it moved. Just like that. Another pointed at a city and I could see it open up so he could start moving all the citizens around with a flick of the finger. It was…surreal. The two beings that represented the Aztecas and the Turks kept bickering back and forth about when they would be able to take their turns, whatever those are, while another kept saying he could ‘unpause’ soon. When he finally unpaused, the endless day ended. Just like that. I ran to my room, and…well I’ve been trying to drink myself into oblivion since. I don’t know what to make of this.”

    “Sir, this all sounds, fantastical. But I believe you. What do we do now?”

    “We need to figure out what to…”

    “ALL RIGHT MEN! THAT WILL BE QUITE ENOUGH!” a booming voice from behind shook the two men from their thoughts. Jarl Eirikson looked around guiltily as Mr. Wednesday stepped from behind a tapestry. “This is something that should NOT BE KNOWN!”

    Jarl Eirikson stood defiantly, “But sir, I saw this with my own eyes. It did happen. And I’m going to tell everyone about the rip so that they can see it themselves.”

    “No, you will not. The rip has been repaired. And the only two mortals that know of it are standing before me,” Mr. Wednesday smiled, a look that appeared wholly sinister and malevolent on his dark features.

    “Are you…are you going to kill us?” Hakon asked in a small voice?

    Mr. Wednesday sighed, “No Hakon, you two are among my best administrators. I will not kill you. But you may not know of what has gone on here. Instead you will just…forget…” Mr. Wednesday waved his hand and the two mortals suddenly developed slack-jawed, glazed looks on their faces.

    “Now then Jarl Eirikson, I will have your report on troop movements out of the Mediterranean. First thing in the morning?”

    “Uhm, yes sir.”

    Mr. Wednesday sighed and left the room.


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    Official communiqué of the Ministry of trade of Mali:
    Mali communicated to all interested nations of Mali that scientists have created a new breed of smart pigeons that can carry messages and their range is 3,000 kilometers. Anyone who wants to buy this rare breed pigeons and their coaches who will feed them and train. For more information, contact the nearest Embassy of Mali.
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    The great plague of 1756 had run its course. Punaco sat quietly in his bedroom, overlooking the courtyard below. The early afternoon sun barely penetrated the room, seeing fit to hand lazily about outside, bouncing the odd ray up into the estatone's quarters. In his dark contemplation, Punaco observed his servants and estatitones below. In his thoughts, he passed by this fact, and it gave cause for him to smile so slightly, recognizing the luck of having been born in this century, despite all the catastrophe and peril, rather than in some time prior to the linguen modernizatin. Oh, what a mouthful the ancien lingue had been! Or, rather, what they called it at the time, the "pullano'tazchatakallapta'chia." What sort of people would come up with such a useless and complex language? It was as if someone had taken the refined, modern tongue and substituted two different, random letters for each of the modern ones! But, that would be a ridiculous thing for one to do...

    Now, there was reason to it all, finally, but what reason had been brought to the Inca tongue had been stolen from the Inca world. Yes, great railways now linked the major Inca cities, and trade and commerce were exploding with the new "corporationes", and the promise of "autoes" and new ships held a bright promise for his later years, but so many were his world's ills now that he could hardly look forward to such a removed state as "next decade"...

    The Aztec finally come into their own, with their own navy - or should he call it the "navie d'Aztec" - and armed force to match, and the hemisphere boiling in armed conflict between major European powers. The English contentedly on the sidelines, and his own government now following suit, while distant European and Asian powers vied over a sea that even the so-proximate Inca had decided unimportant to their interests!

    "What reason is there in that," he mumbled to no one in particular, distraught over the new shape of his hemisphere. Back in his thoughts, he brooded over Japanese late payments and the costs to Inca for such, over the distance of the Natives and the plight of the Americans, over the Indians and Chinese and all other nations of the world, over the loss of the Arabian client-state after their independence movement took the Emperor by surprise, and over all the calamities of the past decade.

    Yet, all of these issues were but distractions from the truly great events of consequence in his recent life.

    "Plague pe somnambulin," came out spitefully and horrified from under his breath, then slipped back in with the next. Yes, the plague that had beset the globe for the past, what was it, ten or twelve years? The plague of slow death, comatosis. The plague that had swept through the globe in a fortnight and put the entire machinery of civilization to a stand-still for so many long years. That darkness, still now unresolved, still not passed to the next morn. That plague, what terror.

    He remembered when he first saw it, first heard of it, in the "first year of 1756". In the market, a man, no, a shell of a man, sauntering slowly through the stands, mindless. His hands a cold, icy white, slowly drifting past the apples and potatoes; his dry, cracked shoulders pressing the traders and locals out of his way. His eyes lost, as though a blind spot in Punaco's own vision. He remembered trying to look at the man's face, to see his eyes, but saw everything but the man's eyes, as though the entire world around him was reflected in those two recesses all at once, causing the inexplicable sensation of seeing a distinct facial feature while at the same time seeing nothing but a small part of the whole scene, a subject completely lacking form or distinction, irreconcilable even with its own frame. And then, in an instant, those shards of uncertainty became transfixed on Punaco's own eyes, and where before had been a kaleidoscopic fugue in miniature now blazed a deep fire which at once pierced and stunned Punaco's sense. In that moment, the shambling figure came alive and broke from his dreary walk into a charge of ferocious rage. Transfixed still in those facial embers, Punaco could only stand aside from himself and watch as this monster rushed into stall and began to tear at Punaco's body. Punaco watched as this thing was, a moment before trying to rip out Punaco's throat with its teeth, pulled away by a crowd. And then Punaco was released from his spell as the thing's gaze transfixed upon the multitude, and raving and flailing went about ripping and gnawing as many as it could before finally being subdued by the butcher's assistant.

    That had been the first experience, but it was soon followed by more, and then more, as the plague spread throughout his city. Government had been suspended, and with it time itself. Yes, there would be many "year 1756"s as the sun spun its course and the plague continued to spread.

    So, Punaco had retreated to his farming estate, and with his estatitiones had built up a fortified villa that saw out these years of mischief in relative security and peace. The cities continued to burn and riot with wave after wave of infection and chaos, yet here in the country only the occasional victim wandered, yet unmolested or subdued by the now many armed and vigilant estates. The cities slowly emptied, and life returned to the clien-estatioe model of antiquity, albeit one of extreme strain and congestion, as to move a city block onto a farm was still a difficult task. But in the process, Punaco found his status and wealth increase greatly, as the many less fortunate and panicked city-goers flocked to him for shelter and food, and he had many an opportunity to turn away or expel those he saw unfit or overly proud for service on his land...

    Now, finally, it seemed the storm was breaking, and time again was moving forward. The government restored in Capaco, the people were moving back into the cities, but many still remained, scared at a return of the plague. Indeed, there were yet hotspots in the outer provinces. Kassito was all but quarantined now, as were the Russian fjordlands of the Southern tip, and New Caczcoynaco was an unqualified disaster without immediate hope. But here in the coastal hills of the Old Coast life was slowly returning to some order, just as the wars over the Leftsea returned from their long, forced ceasefire.

    Many were now claiming that it was a new god that had brought an end to the plague. That the old gods had been preoccupied with its birth to enforce sanity in the world, and with their long absence from the scene, disorder of mind and body had followed. This new god was claimed to have been incarnated in a great fireball seen in the sky for many nights and days about a year ago. It was as though a second sun, yet oval in shape, with a bright ball at the one end. It had the appearance of an olive, many said, and from this the name of this new god was crafted "Solivia", the fruit of the sungod. This new deity had at last saved mankind from the darkness of divine apathy, and to it now millions in Incaco prayed for their preservation and the progress of humanity, and that this god would, finding its new position in creation acceptable, "settle in place", and maintain order and productivity throughout the world of man. As such, the letters "SIP" were carved in every shrine and monument in the Empire, and "Solivia be praised" became a common greeting among rulers and ruled alike.

    Yet, Punaco put no faith in such things, only his firearms and now vast estate would preserve him. His thoughts then turned to the future, what little piece of it he dared to consider at present, and with it his eyes moved to the villa complex on the hill beyond his courtyard. The occupants were quite resistant to his attempts at being bought out, yet he had learned of a weakness in their walls that a bought-off estatitione had told him about, and -unknown to no one but a few- he had now half a dozen plaguiones in his cellar, quite well fed and tortured into a rage that would make them a true match for that villa's arms...

    and in this manner Punaco Kaesaro spent the rest of his siestio in contemplation.

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    ras Moussa called the Minister of Health of Mali. When he came he asked him "what are these rumors of plague in South America,"
    "My lord do not yet have precise information but we know for sure is that the patients died between 3 and 5 days after being infected and survive only young and healthy people and not always "
    " I will betray order ships coming across the Atlantic to stay 6 days at anchor in the harbor and then the passengers and crew will be able to get off the ground in Mali "
    " My lord this is a sensible measure "

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    Mali, it was a worldwide plague! You don't remember? You are starting to talk like a plague victim...

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    Mali is not a victim, the guardian of the throne of Mali just wants to protect his people. Mali thinks is a mistake in translation, Mali did not want to affect the Sons of the sun.

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    "My lord Jarl is this another day that will not end?"

    "Yes Hakon, it appears so."

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    It seems that the plague nation of Mali has acted as a reservoir from which the new outbreak has spread...

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    Official communiqué of the Ministry of Commerce of Mali:
    Mali offers for sale the latest invention of their masters. This is a manual washing machine is tested and works twice as fast as the fastest washerwoman of Mali. buying this invention you will be able to spend more time with your favorite women or to give it more time cooking and cleaning for example.
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    The Vikings have gifted Riflemen to the Indians, in strict violation of terms of the war agreement.

    If no reasonable explanation is quickly forthcoming, China will declare war on India and end this war for good. Vikings will be considered enemies of China as well and we will find a way to exact revenge.

    We demand an answer, India, are you utterly incapable acting honorably? This term that you throw around so often, does it mean whatever is convenient to you at the moment?

    Let the record show that China has never in our history gifted units to any nation.

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    As was explained to China before, the riflemen were the remainder of a debt that the Vikings owed to India for many years for a deal that was made long ago.

    I had no knowledge of your war agreement against units. All I was doing was finishing up my debt to India. I have no wish to incur the wrath of the nation of China, but the Vikings are an honorable nation who keeps their word and pays their debts.

    The Viking nation has absolutely no ties to the Indian nation beyond that debt. Now that the debt has been paid all ties are finished.

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    Great Sea Battle decidedly won by India in the West Indies islands!


    Response to China:
    If you have matters to discuss with us regarding our agreement related to this war contact us through the Ottoman mediators.

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    Communique form the Arab League

    It saddens us to see what greed makes to once honorable nations. The Chinese got so low that they are now threatening, bullying those who are weaker instead of helping them. It is the Indians who had been attacked yet the Chinese only see this as an opportunity to grow even larger.
    We ask those who have kept their integrity and able to stand against this superpower to do something to prevent the catastrophe. We are especially counting on the Noble Russians and Incas to step in and stop the Chinese aggression.

    A side note: The Arab league is angered by the Viking insult: first they have sent soldiers into our territory without our permission and then they refused to even answer our diplomatic letter. We decided that we will still allow viking traders to enter our territory as before but no other type of unit. Violation of this will result our borders to be closed immediately.

    King Salam Abdus

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    The Inca aren't sure that the Indians ever bothered to thank them for successfully mediating their dispute with Rus, so we see little reason to get involved now and strain further diplomatic relations and put in further effort to assist them again. We can't seem to get peace between countries in our own hemisphere, so working on a peace with a country that isn't even a Pacific power seems ridiculous now.

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    The Inca Design Corporation has merged with the Inca Architects Guild to form Creative Constructions. The new company is looking to expand overseas, and if anyone would like to volunteer a city for a branch location, we would love to find an agreement with you. Each branch carries benefits in cultural output and productive output for its host city, and we only ask for a fairly small set of tax breaks, infrastructure, and free utilities for such benefits.

    If your city has iron, copper, marble, or stone, we'd love to talk!

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    [OOC] To Arabia: No insult was intended and I answered you in-game which was where you sent your communique. The previous leader of the Arabs allowed movement through your territory to pay the debt I owed to India.

    Side note: I'm not ever trading anything with India again. All it has brought me is grief from other nations who hate India, when all I'm doing is fulfilling my side of a bargain made before any war.

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    That message we have never received, but we accept your word for it. We would had allowed your troop movements as we honor Arabia's old agreements. We ask all nations that let us know before you send military units to our territory or we might reconsider our open border treaties.

    King Abdus

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    Message to China and Inca:

    To China:

    As the mediator of the Japan-India conflict, I must step forward and offer an explanation for this recent misunderstanding.

    The treaty signed by all three nations, China, India, and Japan, required that during the war period, neither Japan, nor India would recieve units from outside nations. India was concerned that Japan's allies would rush to send vast navies to Japan before the treaty was signed, so India insisted on a condition that would bar, or limit this. what was agreed upon, was that Japan could recieve ONLY a few ships that had been previously promised and nothing else. This was the only exception provided for in the treaty.

    However, AFTER the treaty had been amended and put into force, India sent me a message where they confirmed that they were agreeing to the treaty, and then made a remark about Viking units that Vikings owed them. India did not request that these units be made part of the treaty, and they apparently did not inform the other nations about it. Nor did I, as at that point the treaty was signed and I did not want to 'upset the sugar-dates cart' as we say here in Turkey.

    What I think happened, is that India was unhappy about Japan getting the ships, but felt they had no choice but to agree to the treaty. So rather than risk losing the treaty, by bringing up the Viking units to the other nations or demanding to include the Viking units in the treaty, India chose to mention the units to me in passing, in the hopes that this would have the same effect as including the units in the treaty.

    So the fact, is that in taking units from Valhalla, India has violated the treaty it signed, because that treaty made no mention whatsoever about allowing India to take Viking units. The treaty did allow Japan to recive some ships owed, but did NOT allow India to recieve units.

    Consequently, I would like to personally take responsibility for the misunderstanding over the Viking Riflemen. What I suggest, is that China stay her mighty hand, and allow India to either temporarily transfer the Viking Riflemen to Arabian control until the end of the agreed war-period, or to allow India to keep these Rifleman, as the transfer was mentioned beforehand.

    Alternatively, we can speak privately on this matter and try to reach some alternative solution, but either way, we would ask China not to get involved yet, and to allow India and Japan to complete the War period as I believe they both intend to without further outside interference. As for how China deals with Valhalla, this is a seperate issue and none of our concern, as Vikings were warned publicly not to interefere and did so anyway. Unlike India, who at least has some excuse, there is no excuse for the Vikings' actions other than disrespect for China and Turkey.

    To Inca:

    We are gratified to hear the wise businessmen of Inca have developed a Construction company. Turkey has many vital construction and infrastucture projects, and we welcome the Inca to open a branch of the Corporation in Turkey. We previously requested a representative of Mining Inc to open a branch in Turkey, but the Valhalla businessmen rudely ignored our requests. Again, Inca business owners should please contact our nation privately to discuss the particulars of sending a corporate representative to us.

    Aysecan, Public Relations Minister

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    Consider a contract signed then! Inca merchants will be dispatched for Turkey shortly to assist you in your cultural and productive needs. How many do you desire?

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    Response to Ottoman

    The reason the Riflemen in question were not mentioned earlier is because the deal was made long ago when the Vikings had an different leader. We had already received half of the Rifles we traded for and were honestly uncertain whether the other half would arrive. We sent requests to the Vikings regarding this and they did not answer us regarding their ETA so we had given up hope that they would come. Considering that it is a near world sport to screw over India, this seemed logical to us.

    As for the record, the original deal was 6 Riflemen, which half of we received before any treaty was made. According also to our latest records no Viking troops have reported for duty since the agreement started and we expected them not to arrive. As such, the 3 Rifles currently in Indian service have been there since long before the Ottoman-mediated treaty was even first suggested. If Viking troops have indeed reported for duty after our last roll call, then we are pleased that our arrangement with the Vikings is finally concluded.

    However there are some matters that we must comment on.
    1. Vikings now regret the fact that they made a deal with India because of all the anti-Indianism in the world. This is shameful, that the smallest civilization in the world (6 cities) should have so many and so strong enemies that even trading with us is cause for threats and hostilities towards trade partners. This is cowardly and vile, that great nations hate a small and originally pacifist people. Baseless, cowardly and vile. As a small weak nation India has not been able to buy the loyalty and friendships of powerful nations and therefore all nations now pick on us and celebrate our suffering. This is immoral and cowardly.
    1.2 It is the belief of many Indian analysts that the real goal of the Japanese war is for India's government to collapse fully under the stress of a Chinese-supported-Japan so that the remaining Indian lands can be carved up and split between those who desire our riches.

    2. The deal made with the Vikings was made before the 2nd Great war between Russia and Neandor and as such it was not relevant for the purposes of our treaty as the units had been bought a near century before Japan cowardly and without reason attacked India.
    2.2. We did not originally inform the Ottoman of the Rifles as their sale was made so far ago that it should not matter. The Rifles should have been delivered centuries ago but were delayed by war and the political situation in the region. As such, they were not part of any deal made during the war and as such not subject to the treaties in question.
    2.3. We did eventually decide to tell the Ottomans that we had made such a deal at a pre-pre-war time and that they would communicate this onwards. Keep in mind that India has had no correspondence with neither China or Japan since the Ottoman entered as mediators and as such it was in fact the Ottoman's responsibility to inform the other treaty signers IF the matter was in fact of any relevance. Which we did not believe it was, and neither did apparently the Ottoman as they chose to not disclose it.

    In conclusion, India has NOT broken any treaty and if in fact receiving the troops in question was a breach of the treaty then the Ottoman should have announced this to us when we told them so that we could postpone the transfer. The Ottomans did not state that this would be a violation of the treaty and as such we did not consider it to be either. They can not now claim that India has broken any treaty when they knew that the soldiers were coming.

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    Out of great respect for the Ottoman peace keepers we will not unleash violence on India if the Riflemen in question are moved to a neutral land for the duration of the war period. This must happen at once.

    Let the world take note of India's inability to cooperate with any other nation. They write chapter upon chapter of baseless conspiracy and lies yet somehow every nation seems to have a problem with them due to acts of dishonor-ability on their part.

    I will repeat again for new world leaders who have just been elected and not bothered to read their history (Arabia): China's greatest wish was for a unified Asia and went to great lengths to unite these nations to work together. Japan, has been a great friend and we have prospered together (sidenote: China has not gifted a single unit to Japan). Mongolia decided to war with us, lost, and ignored any effort to reconcile. They now wallow in filth. India, claims that China settled land that is rightfully theirs (why? because they say so!) and rather than work with China and Japan eons ago when we agreed to help them, find themselves in an unfortunate position.

    Finally, Vikings are hereby labelled an enemy to China. This is the second time that you have gifted troops to India in strict violation of regional treaties. I have kept the messenger you sent telling us that it would never happen again, the first one. Viking units travelling near Chinese lands are not safe nor welcome. China has many great friends in your parts of the world and we will ensure that Chinese dignity is restored after this blatant insult.

    PS China will not respond to India's forthcoming novel.

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    Leader of China,

    We might not know history but we were presented with these facts:

    -Japan has attacked India and took their cities
    -Then came you, the superpower, threatening small India to accept defeat or you will destroy them.

    Maybe Japan can justify his war against India. It seems to be a balanced conflict which hopefully can be resolved soon, but your intervention is unacceptable. We don't know what is your gain helping Japan, it could be just to get their loyalty, but under no circumstances should it be allowed that you destroy or even just weaken India. We of course have no doubt you could do both almost effortlessly.
    We only wish to see true peace negotiations without threats, the stability in Asia is our concern too.

    King Salam Abdus

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    The old Neanderhal could think of something at least, if only awake briefly...

    And that is to say that the Viking units were promised VERY long ago in return for a GP that was sent by India. India should have had those 6 units well before the recent wars and in fact during the Vikings war against the Damn Anglais.

    India had full right to these units in her possession and this is not an issue for any current peace talks.

    For the sake of ancient friendships with both India and China I ask for common sense to prevail here and that in no way should the current Viking leader be suffering negative diplomacy as a result.

    Old Neanderthal.


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    Out of great respect for the Ottoman peace keepers we will not unleash violence on India if the Riflemen in question are moved to a neutral land for the duration of the war period. This must happen at once.

    Let the world take note of India's inability to cooperate with any other nation. They write chapter upon chapter of baseless conspiracy and lies yet somehow every nation seems to have a problem with them due to acts of dishonor-ability on their part.

    I will repeat again for new world leaders who have just been elected and not bothered to read their history (Arabia): China's greatest wish was for a unified Asia and went to great lengths to unite these nations to work together. Japan, has been a great friend and we have prospered together (sidenote: China has not gifted a single unit to Japan). Mongolia decided to war with us, lost, and ignored any effort to reconcile. They now wallow in filth. India, claims that China settled land that is rightfully theirs (why? because they say so!) and rather than work with China and Japan eons ago when we agreed to help them, find themselves in an unfortunate position.

    Finally, Vikings are hereby labelled an enemy to China. This is the second time that you have gifted troops to India in strict violation of regional treaties. I have kept the messenger you sent telling us that it would never happen again, the first one. Viking units travelling near Chinese lands are not safe nor welcome. China has many great friends in your parts of the world and we will ensure that Chinese dignity is restored after this blatant insult.

    PS China will not respond to India's forthcoming novel.
    The question of whether modern humans and Neanderthals mated when they encountered each other 40,000 years ago is highly controversial.

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    Great Ottomans,

    We are currently still in a state of war. We do not know your intentions, nor your reasons for this. Recently, you brokered a peace deal with our allies. But you did not approach us.

    But our people are weary. They scan the horizon every day, and weep with fear when they think they see sails on the horizon. They pray each night, hoping that there will be another tomorrow. They look at each other before they go to bed, and are afraid; afraid that they might not see each other when the sun rises.

    We ask you; let us make an end to this madness. Let us make peace. No conditions, no reparations, nothing. Let us just forget about the past, and try to make a new start. Let us foster hope instead of hatred.

    And let us gaze upon the ocean again, simply marveling at its beauty, instead of fearing what the tide may bring.

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    Notice to India and America:

    To India:

    We have heard your words and we find truth and reason in much of what you say. As I said before, I can confirm that you did mention the Viking Rifles that were owed to you previously, and it was reasonable for you to expect, or at least hope, that I as mediator would have brought this issue up to Japan and China. I did not however, in the forlorn hope that you would not recieve the units, or that you would postpone recieving them in recognition that the treaty did not allow such a thing. Either way, I accept responsibility for my oversight.

    Now, going forward, we must look at the situation realistically. China has agreed to my public request, and will not attack India if India agrees to sideline the Viking Rifles she just recieved. The reason this condition should be acceptable to India, is because India has already publicly stated numerous times, that India did not even expect to recieve the Rifles, and in any case, there were only 3 Rifles transfered.

    Since India was not expecting them anyway, and they just arrived, via Arabia, sending them back to Arabia to wait out the war period causes India no hardship whatsoever. Arabia has already expressed sympathy for India's case, and so I am confident that they would be willing to act as stewards of the Viking Rifles until the war-period ends. It seems inconcievable, that India would prefer certain war with China in order to keep 3 Rifles. If China attacks India, the losses will be substantially higher than 3 Rifles. Is this not correct?

    Therefore, I ask India to agree to China's request, and publicly, or privately agree to transfer the recently recieved Viking Rifles to Arabia until the end of the war period. There really seems to be no other way to handle this. If Arabia refuses to accept them, then Turkey will accept them and return them after the War period ends. Be sure to give them name tags that say "Hello My Name Is" so that we will recognize them as Indian.

    To America:

    Our reasons for declaring war on America were delivered previously to you privately and do not need to be repeated publicly. However, those reasons no longer exist, and Turkey accepts your offer of Peace.

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    Arabia of course would accommodate those rifles until the end of war, if that's India's wish and helps making peace. It saddens us though that this could even create such distress. In our interpretation these rifles were belonging to India before the war, before the sign of the cease fire, they are not viking troops supporting India, but India's own troops. We just wish this conflict ended shortly.-We still haven't heard about the terms recently, I think that's more important question.

    Abdus Salam
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    Regarding China's statement


    China publicly declares its imperialist desires to dominate all Asia. It is obvious that their support of Japan at every turn is a consequence of this. Allow India to ask a few questions for the sake of clarity, these are rhetorical questions and will illustrate the truth, any response to them is unnecessary.


    1. What has Japan truly gained from their alliance with China? Count Japan's cities and their qualities compared to that of China and it is obvious that China has exploited Japanese simplicity and made itself rich in lands while Japan has none of the rich mainland and was forced to the poor west Indies islands. Japan is one of the poorer nations while China is one of the greatest, it shows clearly that China is not a good alliance partner treating its allies fairly, instead they have abused their neighbour's naivety and enriched themselves greatly while their most loyal ally Japan is left to be a poor people.


    2. How many cities do China have compared to India? The world should hold a fair and even share of land for all nations, yet India has only 6 cities (+ its colonies) while China has 15? China claims they have not taken any lands, but their great share of the Asian lands show that they have. They bought the idiot Japanese (whom mentioned above have gained nothing for their compliance) to stay off the mainland and smashed the Mongolians who tried to resist their hegemonic plans and now they seek to destroy India for not wishing to serve them as a puppet in the way Japan does.
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    3. What would a unified Asia under China have gained India? China had already taken the south-east Asia and there was no lands except the West Indies islands to settle, which we did on our own regardless of China. Had China offered a good deal we would have taken it, instead they tried to buy our servitude with promises we knew they could not keep. When we logically refused they deemed us an enemy. We chose independence rather than servitude and China has hated us for it ever since. We see where we would have been had we accepted the Chinese offer, a subject state, a puppet making China greater with us as its "allies" weak, just as is the case with Japan.


    4. Why does China declare the Vikings an enemy for making a trade with India more than 100 years ago when there was peace in the region and no deals existed to not sell weapons to India? India desired strong defences to ensure our colonial possessions and it seems that it was in fact quite necessary. The reason China does this is its hatred of the nation that refused to be their slave. By extension any nation that would trade with India in a way that allows us to keep our independence and our colonies is an enemy of China. Can there be any question that China is in fact the real player behind the Japanese attack?

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