The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Robert]

Game has been paused

Yes, by 'pause' I mean it's a deliberate downtime.
If I use 'down' it means the server crashed or something.

[Russia (DoC)]

game down...

[Mali (DoC)]

I assume by pause you mean that the game is down. Either that or the hotel internet connection will not allow me to connect to the game.

[Robert]

ok, I'll launch the game around that time!
Thanks for the heads up.

[Ottoman Empire (DoC)]

I am only able to log in briefly during the day, saw that the game is paused so I won't have time to pm and wait for game to be unpaused, then move.

It is 1 pm my time now, I will be able to play in 4 hours, 5 p.m. my time.

[Robert]

Arabia 'capitulated' to Russia, not to the Ottomans.

[India (DoC)]

is this pause necessary? as far as I know Arabia capitulated.

[Robert]

game paused for ottomans. pls pm me when ready

[Persia (DoC)]

I love the temper of the Russian king!

[Robert]

Sure son, play your turn.
Arabia didn't leave a note so I just take it that he forgot to end turn.

Keep in mind that it's not allowed (by the rule) to become a capitulated vassal of someone!

Rules:

7. No permanent vassalage (capitulation). The vassal must obey the terms made in a vassalage deal unless it's been freed (by a 3rd nation or by the master, or if the master doesn't live up to the terms). This rule is in place to find a way to get vassalages lasting longer then 10 turns without being forced to remain a vassal by game mechanics.

[Russia (DoC)]

mom! saladin isn't playing his turn!!!

edit: he has logged in, but not ended turn?
safe to play?

[England (DoC)]

Inca and former allies, not only you bare the fruits of the war against England. I think that you partially did achieved what you wanted. Overall England was much weakened economically and scientifically. To some extend I am thankful for this, there is a good chance that instead of now major civs targeting India, England could have been that target.

[Persia (DoC)]

A game is always a game, if it's not about winning then there's no spirit to participate. There must be something to gain. But since we're all in a role it also must be believable.

Having said that, having fun is more important then winning.
And since there can only be one winner, it's only natural that smaller civs that will never win will ally with a possible winner.

And because diplo-win is more important then in-game win (though in-game win may satisfy more ) we should not only focus on India (or England or Persia). Russia is right, they also still have a chance.
Having said that, Russia may have more of a chance if this game continues longer. Time is their friend.

But I believe that fun and role playing should continue to be the main spirit behind a game like this. Maybe next game we should have a 'role playing' category instead of a 'diplomacy' category. Players will be rated based on how their in-game behavior and their diplomacy is in line with the role they play.
But that's for next game. This will advantage nations like Russia, Persia and India who play a role that may seem undiplomatic at certain levels. It'll also warrant that "being nice and friendly" is not the only way to go. (but still a very good way to go, since that's also a role that can be awarded points if followed closely)

So far most important to me is that everybody is still on board, nations lower on SCORE are still active in game (waging wars and diplomacy and stories). we have no fights or huge ooc arguments.
And I'm thinking way too much about how to influence others and civs and diplomacy and in-game strategies.....

I'm only worrying that I may die one day and enter the Pearly Gates, meeting Saint Peter, who then says: "I've read all your posts on Apolyton about this Hastogianistic faith you're a follower of! We have no place for you in heaven"
And I'm then telling him: "It's only role playing, it's not the truth! Really really!" but he then doesn't understand the concept of role playing

That's all I worry about

[Korea (DoC)]

As far as in character goes, only one nation should actualy be upset at Indians beign so culturaly strong and that is Korea as the home of True Taoism. So i guess i should continue my scheming and planning to get others to do my dirty work whilst korea maintains its true stance of protector of the TRUE FAITH

If only the other Taoists werent so easily led astray.

And despite Indias postings of not having any friends in this work,d Mali and Natives have done all they have been asked to all game so whilst not offiicaly allied they have continued to protect India by not turning on them. which is all good, but do not fool yourselves , if mali and natives had joined a TRUE TAOIST allaince ages ago as requested the current war would not be occuring , it would have been INDIA/Mali/Natives/Korea now invading the non Taoist countries.

[Greece (DoC)]

imho as a newcomer

Personaly I think that we have to recognise that we are in a competetive game that has to have an end point.

This is consistent with diplo; and excellent story telling in this game has made it more so. Credit to all here.

As we approach the victory conditions a potential in-game winner will be determined thus ending the game when that point arrives. It does not serve any of the other civs interests or stories to ignore this. Their stories will end when a civ reaches a victory condition... traditionally this is when the game is called and all point systems tallied.