Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Organization Thread VI]

[Pitboss Japan]

Guys - I think we have to admit that the game is dead. Hardly anyone is playing any more. I can't be bothered just going through teh motions, and if I can't and I have a space ship in flight, I can only guess what its like for the rest of you. A sad end, but and end I think it is.

Yeah, I feel the same. I log in about every second turn, but there is not much to do. I had plans.. war plans to take revenge and take back our lost cities, but no point doing that against civs that are not playing anymore.. not to mention that Khmer would had played a big part in this plan if it wasnt the third player already subbing them-or just should as they are not answering pms etc. (I made an agreement with Ozzy about getting some upgrade, then for my pleasure i had to explain this to the new sub: Russia-thats why I tried to protest to let them sub without revealing this trade. However by the time i was ready to send 12 airships and 4k gold for upgrade there comes an other sub-who might doesnt know that He should subbing.)

[Robert]

Game's over. Please send in your last votes for July 2009 in before July 27th

[St Jon]

Yeah, I feel the same. I log in about every second turn, but there is not much to do. I had plans.. war plans to take revenge and take back our lost cities, but no point doing that against civs that are not playing anymore.. not to mention that Khmer would had played a big part in this plan if it wasnt the third player already subbing them-or just should as they are not answering pms etc. (I made an agreement with Ozzy about getting some upgrade, then for my pleasure i had to explain this to the new sub: Russia-thats why I tried to protest to let them sub without revealing this trade. However by the time i was ready to send 12 airships and 4k gold for upgrade there comes an other sub-who might doesnt know that He should subbing.)

@Japan

Just to let you know that I was honest here is a copy of the 'Takeover PM' I sent to Jeroen.

BtP
Hi,

Here are the Khmer p/w's.

PM: Pitboss Khmer
Password: elemijes

Same for gmail.

Game PW is deity15

General strategy is Meduian solidarity. Suckering Rome into attacking Portugal with promises of Khmer attack on New Portugal. No intention of honouring agreement just let two big boys massacre eachother. When weak enough then maybe attack. Greece cannot be trusted as is trying to play everyone off against eachother. Ozzy is old ally and Khmer upgrades of Metal units are ongoing. Infantry/Cannon sitting just over the border are Metalhead Units waiting for Gold. 4 Airships waiting for Upgrade this Turn but only 1000g sent so need 340g more from Ozzy. 2 Airships and 2 Jets are Japanese. Fly Jets back to Japan and gift them. Japan only sent 850g so need rest of 1340g before other Airships are upgraded.

Cheers,
Jon

I knew where the Jets were aimed but that was all.

[Pitboss Japan]

((I had no doubt you did, they just hadnt played since then. ( i sent them 8 more airships and 3k gold) ))

Congrats to everyone who stayed with us till the end and especially to the winner, Rome

[Pitboss Celts]

Congrats to everyone who played. Hopefully you learned something from this experience. I know I did. Apparently, unless you have the time to play a game and write a book at the same time, you have no chance of being in the top 25% of players. That's really too bad as I enjoyed this style of play much more than the "everyone at war" style of the typical multiplayer. If we can develop a better way to determine a winner such that story isn't involved, I would consider playing a diplogame again. I also want to see a game with less bickering and whining. I'm sure to some of you, winning is more important than life itself. However, this seriously takes away any appeal from those not involved in the conflict.

[Pitboss America]

Well said Celts... I concur with everything you have said.

I assume the game is done now as I can't sign in.

Congratulations Rome.

Thanks for a great game all.

[Robert]

New game setup thread: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187232

[OzzyKP]

Game's over. Please send in your last votes for July 2009 in before July 27th

When are you going to post the final results?

[bamf226]

Robert, don't forget about the last game. Give us the results.

[Robert]

I'll finish it soon. Not many people posted last month though. (only 4 I think).

[Robert]

Some charts to start with.



Story Score


Diplo Chart


Military Chart

Open in Firefox if MSIE is failing.

[Heraclitus]

Wouldn't it be easier to read those if countries had the same colors in all?

[Robert]

Yes, but I can't tweak that

[Robert]

Beyond the Pit - June 2008 - July 2009

[Robert]

Score	jun08	jul08	aug08	sep08	okt08	nov08	dec08	jan09	feb09	mar09	apr09	may09	jun09	Jul09
Rome						16	16	16	16	16	17	18	18	18
Portug						17	17	17	17	18	18	17	17	17
Khmer						18	18	18	18	17	16	16	15	16
Metal						10	11	12	13	13	14	15	16	15
Greece						15	13	15	14	15	15	14	14	14
Russia						8	7	11	9	11	13	13	13	13
HRE						6	8	10	11	10	12	12	12	12
Vikings						9	9	9	9	7	10	11	11	11
Japan						1	1	2	11	9	9	8	10	10
Celts						3	3	5	6	6	8	6	6	9
Natives						5	6	6	8	8	6	9	8	8
Spain						12	12	13	12	12	11	11	9	7
America						2	4	7	5	5	5	7	7	6
Maya						13	14	14	15	14	7	5	5	5
England						7	5	3	5	4	4	4	4	4
Inca						11	10	1	3	3	3	3	3	3
Korea						4	2	4	3	3	3	3	3	3
Persia						14	15	8	3	3	3	3	3	3

Story 	jun08	jul08	aug08	sep08	okt08	nov08	dec08	jan09	feb09	mar09	apr09	may09	jun09	Jul09
Greece 	18	18	17	17	17	17	17	18	18	18	18	18	18	18
Korea	13	17	18	18	18	18	18	17	18	17	17	17	17	17
Rome	11	11	12	12	13	13	13	13	14	14	14	15	16	16
Persia	15	16	16	16	15	15	15	16	16	16	16	16	16	15
Japan	17	15	15	15	16	16	16	15	15	15	15	15	14	14
Maya	9	11	9	10	11	13	12	12	12	13	12	12	13	12
Russia	12	12	10	9	8	6	6	7	8	11	13	13	12	13
Vikings	16	14	14	14	14	14	14	14	13	12	12	12	11	11
Metal	14	13	13	12	11	10	11	10	10	9	9	10	10	11
HRE	8	9	7	7	6	7	11	11	11	10	10	9	9	9
Khmer	10	9	11	13	12	11	9	9	9	9	9	8	8	8
Spain	8	6	5	6	9	9	8	8	7	7	7	7	8	8
Port	8	6	5	6	5	8	7	7	6	6	6	6	6	6
Engla	8	6	8	8	7	5	5	5	5	5	5	5	5	5
Celts	8	6	5	3	3	3	3	3	4	4	4	4	4	4
Natives	8	9	7	4	4	4	4	4	3	3	3	3	3	3
America	8	6	5	3	3	3	3	3	2	2	2	2	2	2
Inca	8	6	5	3	3	3	3	3	2	2	2	2	1	1

Diplo	jun08	jul08	aug08	sep08	okt08	nov08	dec08	jan09	feb09	mar09	apr09	may09	jun09	Jul09
Rome	17	17	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18
Greece	16	14	12	11	14	14	14	14	16	17	16	17	17	17
Portu	7	5	13	15	15	15	15	17	16	16	17	16	16	16
Khmer	13	11	10	12	13	13	13	16	14	14	15	15	15	15
Korea	18	18	17	17	17	16	17	15	17	15	14	14	14	14
Metal	16	11	9	7	6	5	4	3	5	6	6	11	13	13
Persia	10	16	16	16	16	17	16	13	13	13	13	13	12	12
Maya	14	14	11	10	8	10	9	11	11	12	12	12	11	11
Russia	9	6	4	3	3	3	2	5	7	8	9	11	10	10
Japan	7	5	3	8	10	8	8	8	8	9	10	8	9	9
HRE	7	5	5	4	6	10	11	12	12	11	11	11	8	8
Natives	11	15	16	15	12	12	12	11	10	10	9	7	7	7
Vikings	13	14	14	13	11	11	10	9	9	8	7	6	6	6
Spain	7	8	6	7	9	7	7	7	6	6	5	5	5	5
Celts	7	9	7	5	4	4	6	6	4	4	4	4	4	4
england	9	7	9	9	7	6	5	5	3	3	3	3	3	3
America	7	5	3	2	2	2	3	3	2	2	2	2	2	2
Inca	7	5	3	2	2	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1

Mili	jun08	jul08	aug08	sep08	okt08	nov08	dec08	jan09	feb09	mar09	apr09	may09	jun09	Jul09
Rome	16	16	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18	18
Greece	14	12	12	13	13	14	16	16	16	16	17	17	17	17
Maya	18	18	17	17	17	17	17	17	17	17	16	16	16	16
Japan	14	16	14	14	15	15	14	13	11	12	13	14	15	15
Russia	14	11	8	5	5	5	4	8	9	15	15	15	14	14
Portug	14	11	10	10	11	11	9	7	7	7	8	7	13	13
HRE	14	11	8	7	7	9	12	15	15	15	14	13	12	12
Khmer	14	11	8	5	5	5	6	11	10	9	9	12	12	12
Korea	17	16	14	12	12	12	11	10	14	13	13	11	10	10
Metal	14	11	8	11	10	10	10	9	8	8	8	8	9	9
Persia	15	13	15	15	14	13	13	12	13	12	11	10	9	9
Vikings	14	17	16	16	16	16	15	14	13	12	11	10	9	9
Celts	14	11	9	8	8	7	8	6	6	6	6	6	6	6
America	14	11	11	10	9	9	7	5	5	5	5	5	5	5
Natives	14	11	8	7	7	6	5	4	4	4	4	4	4	4
England	14	11	8	5	5	5	4	3	3	3	3	3	3	3
Inca	14	11	8	5	5	5	4	3	3	3	3	3	3	3
Spain 	14	11	8	5	5	5	4	3	3	3	3	3	3	3

Total	jun08	jul08	aug08	sep08	okt08	nov08	dec08	jan09	feb09	mar09	apr09	may09	jun09	Jul09
Rome	44	44	48	48	49	65	65	65	66	66	67	69	70	70
Greece	48	44	41	41	44	60	60	63	64	66	66	66	66	66
Portug	29	22	28	31	31	51	48	48	46	47	49	46	52	52
Khmer	37	31	29	30	30	47	46	54	51	49	49	51	50	51
Russia	35	29	22	17	16	22	19	31	33	45	50	52	49	50
Japan	38	36	32	37	41	40	39	38	45	45	47	45	48	48
Metal	44	35	30	30	27	35	36	34	36	36	37	44	48	48
Korea	48	51	49	47	47	50	48	46	52	48	47	45	44	44
Maya	41	43	37	37	36	53	52	54	55	56	47	45	45	44
HRE	29	25	20	18	19	32	42	48	49	46	47	45	41	41
Persia	40	45	47	47	45	59	59	49	45	44	43	42	40	39
Vikings	43	45	44	43	41	50	48	46	44	39	40	39	37	37
Celts	29	26	21	16	15	17	20	20	20	20	22	20	20	23
Spain 	29	25	19	18	23	33	31	31	28	28	26	26	25	23
Natives	33	35	31	26	23	27	27	25	25	25	22	23	22	22
America	29	22	19	15	14	16	17	18	14	14	14	16	16	15
England	31	24	25	22	19	23	19	16	16	15	15	15	15	15
Inca	29	22	16	10	10	20	18	8	9	9	9	9	8	8