Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Story Thread] Part 2 (September)

[Pitboss Rome]

Lucius Junius Brutus was worried. Dangerus ideas of "Monotheism" had begun to spread and several important people began to question the validity of the old polytheistic beliefs, claiming that there were not a multitude of gods but a single God.

This undermined the foundation of the Roman Republic which was said to enjoy the special favor of Quirinus, Romulus ascended. He was belived to be the true celestial king of Rome, and that earthly Gods where anathema since the death of the last legally elected king.

Also each of their Roman parties and districts claimed they enjoyed the special support of that or the other minor diety. Would the belief in a single God imply a single earthly ruler as well. Would a concept of Divine Right appear, perhaps producing tyranny?

No, Rome could not allow this heresy to spread even if the single God was said to be the creator and Quirinus his only son, which was rather confusing since they where supposed to somehow still be "one god", truly to make sense of such belief one would need a whole new branch of knowledge. A theology? The very thought of what their debates would sound like made him chuckle.


The Roman priesthood which was once firmly part of the Roman state (the king was also the pontifex maximus and the king was crowned by an important priest) was now a mostly unofficial assembly.

Lucius would organize the Roman religion. The reforms would no doubt cause turmoil perhaps even some resistance from several of the religious factions within Judaism who claimed the right to heterodoxy. But it was necessary to establish just what
the Roman state religion was and to ensure religion's place would be well defined lest it serve the monarchist's purposes.

[Pitboss Vikings]

Originally posted by Pitboss Rome


From what we know of geography this is mostly untrue.

-you are neglecting that the travel time (by land) of southern nations will be a very long one indeed.


Again the city of Meeting has been selected all the we are now asking of people is whether they will attend.

Also unless Oldonia or Korea are vassals of Portugal I fail to see how Piercia is not neutral ground. Again let me stress that we have made a more than generous offer to Portugal and that they should feel safe, unless they intend to boycott the event not out of fear of safety but because of remaining sour feelings against Rome.

Rome came up with the idea, Rome organizes the event.
We have scrutinized many maps and consider a Piercain city ideal for the meet. We do believe a city on the Western Edge of Piercia would be much much better, but it was Piercia's decision of which city to generously offer for the meet, it also had the unintended bonus of making travel for eastern nations easier.

The only change of venue that is too occur, is if Piercia offers another city. I suggest that if you wish to move the meeting closer to your lands you focus on talking with Piercia.

To the Roman leader

From the Oldonian Leader

We must wonder where you think our geography is wrong. We know that the only passage from Korea to Perecia is through our lands then to Wyandots and onto percia. Same for Mayans and Greeks and also the Japanese. This is of course unless they have sailing ability to cross the inland sea.

Japanese are obviously ok as they have a wandering Warrior between outselves and the percied ones, where exsctly i know not, but it was last seen heading to Wyandots.

Whilst the idea of this meeting is great. It is the mechanics you have not taken into account.

Would be so much easier for Romans to send their contact west to meet myself and the Greeks/Mayans/Koreans who are currently heading north to meet the Oldonians. Portugul has units near Wyandots so not much further to get to Oldonia. Wyandots are already there.

So bascially within a short period of time we can have the following in Oldonia.

1. Oldonia
2. Japan.
3. Greece
4. Maya
5. Korea.
6. Portugul
7. Rome
8. Wyandots.
9. Pierced ones.

So only Russia is possibly long time and Spain too.

If this meeting is about the world coming together then where the meeting held is not a important as it happening sooner rather than later.

But as we said, we will get to your meeting but it will take time.

If time is not the issue then there will be no problems.

Regardless of the meeting , we will be making contact with Romans to the East as our OSS Enterprise reports it is making good time up the East Coast. If the spanish are still in the waters to the east of Rusia and rome we may meet them too.

So Live long and Prosper my friend.

Davros

[Pitboss Rome]

Again speak with Piercia about moving the meeting to a Pirecian city in the West.

Portugal can be in Meeting about as fast as Rome since they are my direct neighbor the same is true of Wyandot.

Also a few southern nations have told me they have already sent floaters towards my lands to make contact, so this is only a minor course correction.

You are underestimating the size of Greek lands, travel through them will take some time, as will travel through your mostly undeveloped lands.

The meeting in its current location is quickly accesible by the following:

Portugal
Wyandot
Russia
Rome
Piercia (they are hosting it)
Japan (the unit you refer too)

Reasonable time:
Greece
Oldonia
Spain
Korea

Long time:
Aztecs
Maya
others?


Looking at a composite of all the maps I have managed to obtain it is clear beyond doubt that Piercia is at the center of our "continent".

[Pitboss Rome]

Also this meeting is happening sooner, several civs have already confirmed in PM's that they are going for it.



Much like the world fair which was hosted in many different cities, I imagined this conference mooving after some period of time. The units of many civs moving to a new location, together so as to make contact with late civs faster.

[The Capo]

@ Rome: Korea and Maya can assure you that the Aztecs have been crushed, and if you wish their presence I'd suggest contacting a psychic or some similar form of nonsense.

[Pitboss Korea]

Seoul...

Han Gong, Emperor Sejong, and a handfull of guards entered the Imperial Chambers. The Emperor was very pleased over the latest events, he had his gifts for the Maya and was now preparing to journey to Sparta to visit with the Greek leadership. He was quite pleased with himself, and knew his father would be too. But that was the new issue; who exactly was his father?

Hae Mosu quickly followed the group into the room, "Emperor Sejong, I have word from the Greeks. They have translated the missive!" he said proudly, holding up the translated message.

"Minister Hae Mosu, I will tend to that issue at a later time, guards please escort the Minister to his chambers, I shall meet him momentarily." the Emperor said bluntly.

The guards surrounded Hae Mosu "Emperor, I implore you, it is of utmost importance!" Hae exclaimed, one of the guards grabbed his arm.

"Unhand me peasant!" Hae said.

"Guards please, he is an Imperial Minister, do not rouse him so. Hae, stop it, I told you I will speak with you momentarily, do not take it personally." Sejong said.

Hae ripped his arm from the soldier's grasp, and fixed his robes "Of course your excellency, I was simply excited about the news."

Sejong nodded, and Hae bowed and left.

"So, Emperor" General Han Gong began, waiting until everyone else left "To what do I owe this pleasure?"

Emperor Sejong paced around the room, he was eerily silent, and Han had suspicious thoughts. "General, something is said to have occured, many many years ago. Near to the time I was born."

Sejong stopped speaking, Han shrugged his shoulders "Yes excellency?"

"Well, I was hoping you could inform me General." Sejong said slyly.

"Well there are a number of things that occured at that time, there was the-"

"DO NOT PATRONIZE ME GENERAL!" the Emperor fumed, "You know what I want to know, and you WILL tell me now!"

The General was taken aback, he began to think "Well sir-"

"YOUR EXCELLENCY!" Sejong replied.

"Your Excellency, I am sorry sir, err Your Excellency" Han Gong stuttered "I was the commander of Pyongyang, of the forces there, and General Gang Jo came to town one night."

"Stop wasting my time General" Sejong said "Cut to it, you aren't a fool are you? You must already know that I have heard this story, I just wanted to know it was true!"

"Yes sir, I'm sorry, yes your excellency. Well, your mother and General Gang Jo, they went to bed, and you may not be Wang Geon's true son."

Sejong stared at Han Gong "And you never told anybody?"

"Of course not sir, I did not want to-"

"To what General? To die? To be killed?" Sejong asked.

"That's right, like Gang Jo was."

"Like MY FATHER was you mean?" Sejong asked, his eyes were intense, and Han Gong truly feared for his life.

"Forgive me Emperor, you were just a boy, if this went out to public it could have spelled disaster for everything, the peace between Goguryeo and Silla was uneasy as it was, and General Bae didn't want things to collapse." Han Gong pleaded.

"And of course you didn't want to die? You muling little twit!"

Just then there was a knock at the door, Han Gong was thuroughly relieved. A guard opened the door "Emperor, Commander Kim Jong-seo has arrived, shall I send him in?"

Sparta, the Home of Bae Hyeongyeong...

A rider arrived at Bae's home, Bae was in his garden tending to his flowers. A hobby many Spartans found quite strange, and very efette, but it was a tradition in Korea. "General Bae Hyeongyeong?" the rider asked, he was Korean.

Bae was growing much older, and very frail, he pulled himself up with the aide of a cane "Yes that is me, what news do you bring rider?"

"This message from Emperor Sejong sir..."

TO: Bae Hyeongyeong
FROM: Sejong of Goguryeo, Emperor of Korea

We would like to inform you that our glorious Emperor is preparing to arrive in Sparta quite shortly. We ask on behalf of the Empire that you please inform Alexander of his arrival, and make proper preparations for lodging of the Imperial court. We understand that you are aware of current international events and issues within the Korean court. We understand you will be a gracious and most welcome representative to Alexander of Sparta, and hope that he is prepared for the Emperor's arrival.

Thank you

-Sejong of Goguryeo, Emperor of Korea

Back in Seoul...

Han Gong turned a suspicious eye towards Kim Jong-seo, it was no secret that Kim was the assassin who took the life of General Gang Jo, it was no secret that he was ruthless and followed orders strictly. Han placed his hand upon his sword's handle.

"General, that will not be necessary" Sejong said, he leaned into the General's ear "Do you think I would spill blood in my own palace?" he whispered.

"Emperor Sejong" Kim said, he bowed "General Han. I arrived as soon as I could, the guards kept me waiting. How may I be of service?"

Han thought to himself, apparently Kim wasn't sent to kill me, he doesn't pretend in this manner, "Commander Kim" Han said "I have yet to know why I am here."

"I brought you gentlemen here because we are currently constructing a vessel worthy of traversing the seas. As you know those Oldonians arrived years ago in a small fishing ship, well this one will put that vessel to shame. I am putting you in charge General Han, and you will be seconded by Commander Kim here. Your mission is to explore the southern island, and report to me its treasures."

Han didn't know what to make of this, perhaps Kim would kill him at sea, or on the island. "Thank you your excellency" Han said.

"Yes, quite gracious of you, I would be honored to embark on such a journey." Kim said.

"Very good boys, very good." Sejong said, a slight smile grew accross his lips "Now if you gentlemen would excuse me, I must meet with Minister Hae Mosu. Please speak to Imperial General Shin Sung for further instructions. That will be all..."

[Pitboss Vikings]

Originally posted by Pitboss Rome
Again speak with Piercia about moving the meeting to a Pirecian city in the West.

They can offer a city. They speak not with me.

Portugal can be in Meeting about as fast as Rome since they are my direct neighbor the same is true of Wyandot.

actually Portuguls got units very close to Wynadots and my lands now. they are further to piercia. [/q]

Also a few southern nations have told me they have already sent floaters towards my lands to make contact, so this is only a minor course correction.

good, hope they make it in time. and not be sunk by barbarian galleys in the middle.

You are underestimating the size of Greek lands, travel through them will take some time, as will travel through your mostly undeveloped lands.

You underestimate the position of units coming to visit me. They already past the greek lands. And i know fully the size of the greek lands i have sailed the length and breadth of them,
And my lands are completely linked by roads from East to West and north to south, I am alittle dispointed that you think my nation is to lazy to conenct my people.


Again , i can wager my whole nation, that it would be quicker to meet in Wyandots or my nation rather than Piercia.

But you only want it in a certain place then so be it , you will have to wait for the armies to ariive.

As to moving it round to other sites over time i see no point in this at all, Once we have met it is more suitable to maintain reltionships via Diplomats not Units on the field.

Davros

[Pitboss Vikings]

The OSS Razolia was commisisoned to undertake the mission that OSS voyager could not due to the Japanese crisis. The Voyager had been sailing to Yellocacia but was now transporting troops. The troops orginaly were going to Japan, but the Barbarian war in Southern Oldonia had meant the brave soldiers were now headed there.

The OSS Razolia, sailed to the south where reports from the VOyager had revealed sailable waters to the west. This was the path that they would follow now.

Yellocacia was witihn their grasp.

[Pitboss Khmer]

vote on poem

it important.

vote on shiva poem please.

vote here

[Pitboss Rome]

Originally posted by Pitboss Vikings
As to moving it round to other sites over time i see no point in this at all, Once we have met it is more suitable to maintain reltionships via Diplomats not Units on the field.

Davros

I meant that once enough civs are assembled they move together to meet late civs halfway reducing the time needed for the late civs to come to the meeting and saving us upkeep costs in this way.

[Pitboss Persia]

We honestly doubt that any city may be better fitted for this meeting as Our city of Meeting. Considering far away lands like Japan, Spain and Korea, there is no better site for this event. It may be further away for some as it is for others, but it's the best compromise.

We don't believe time to be an issue here. Ships can reach it easily, and as far as Our spies can tell, all southern nations do possess the required skills to build some.

We don't see the point in moving around with the meeting.

If no agreement may be achieved, We would of course move to any other site. Other cities of Our Empire seem less appropriate to Us however.

Princess Esther, Regent of the Piercian Empire

[Pitboss Vikings]

Harry, come here.
Davros was aging gracefully but many of his day to day duties he had passed onto his nephew Harry. Davros had never married and had no family. His skin was hardened by many days in the sun, overseeing the completion of theWynadot highway and also the battle plans for removal of the black Skinned people from Oldonian lands. Now the time had come to go forth and attend the meeting with the Romans.

Harry, you must goto this meeting. You are young i Know, but it ias a long journey to the town of Meeting , It is located beyond anywhere we have explroed in that part of the world. I will send a troop to guard you, our longest surviving Axe Brigade shall attend to you and the entourage.

You are to leave today with all haste. Follow the path of the Highway to the Border Province of Eastern Oldonia. From there you must go to Death Valley and pay respects to the lost Scout from Millenia ago. Do not rest in the valley for it is dangerous.

From there continue over the Wyandot ranges and into the Wynadot provinces. Along your way are stationed many Wyandot Chariots they will aff protection to you. Youe number one priority is to get to the meeting so whilst you and your guards may be tempted to take on the Black skinned ones, you must leave this to the Wyandots.

Once in Wyandot Territory you wil lmeet the Dogs of War Battalion and they will lead you through Wyandot territory and beyond , through the unpatrolled lands to Percia and the town of meeting.

There you will listen and take notes. The Romans called this meeting to enhance the whole world. We take it they will be gifting us all with the knowledge they have. If they do not make this offer then you are instructed to leave the meeting as it serves no purpose.

Remember you are there to learn of all the worlds scientific disocveries. Nothing else matters.

Go now and be safe.

Live long and prosper young Harry

[Pitboss Khmer]

Originally posted by Pitboss Khmer
it beautiful. ganesh love portugal and must find this mystical land. he look out across the wave and know that spain boat went north.

it great shame not in poem for shiva. such talent sad lack in our continent but all to learn and write rhyme and song. ganesh to try.

ganesh order a boat be built to find portugal and follow spain footstep.

he hear great meeting of all nation and if proper direction given will sail there too if welcome. much could learn.

[Pitboss Vikings]

A dark shadow moved through the forrest. Sneaking from tree to tree.

Whispers could heard further ahead.

Stealthily the figure crept further in.

Now the whispers became more words and the shadow paused.

Up ahead the shadow heard the orders beign apssed around. The orders from the other side.

The shadow remained hidden behind some bushes and gathered information.

The voices up ahead stopped and then the people turned and left.

The shadow also turned and headed back to where it had come from.

[Pitboss Persia]

New Laws

The Piercian Empire had begun to grow in size, and the usual methods of administration were efficient no longer. That, the Princess knew. She called for all Her ministers and held an assembly in the now all red-painted throne room.

They were to study the concepts that the portuguese juristic theory contained : private property, civilian responsability, criminal responsability, matrimonial rules and more. The manuscripts that the first messengers from the Prince's army brought from the desert were quite interresting indeed.

After hours of debate, they came to the conclusion, that the empire would work much more efficiently if every child were to be instructed by it's parents in order to fullfill the same duties as they did. In order to avoid way to complicated choices for the young ones, only people sharing roughly the same profession would be allowed to procreate. Each category regrouping similar professions would be called a caste. The decision was made, and after surprisingly few resistances against this new caste system, it became the new rule for the entire Empire. Five castes were created.

The Fire Caste would be the one of the fighters. It didn't matter if they wielded the bow, the axe, the sword, the spear or if they were of the immortal riders. All who practiced the art of combat, would be known as the flames.

The Air Caste would be the one of the messengers. All those who were able to quickly bring messages or deliveries from one place to another, and those who were skilled in the ways of beautiful arts would gather in the winds.

The Water Caste would be the one of the thinkers and negociators. Any merchant, scientist or diplomat would be the fresh liquid flowing through the Empire.

The Earth Caste would be the one of the builders. Those who worked the stones, carved the soil and raised the walls would be one in rock.

The Etherial Caste would be the one of the leaders. Any member of the Imperial family or the chamanhood (later on the priesthood) would be the unseasable spirit of the Empire.

All five castes were organized by a small council, sieging in the courthouse of every city and reporting matters of interrest to the throne that ruled them all.

The instoration of this system would be one of the greatest achievements of Esther's regency.