One proviso for me is that ALL tech trades are woven into ALL storylines to ensure transparency.
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Originally posted by deity
One proviso for me is that ALL tech trades are woven into ALL storylines to ensure transparency.
If I'm plotting a war against nation x I may not want that nation x already knows that I have technology y so I can create unit z. Of course nation x could know if it would check F4, but not all players do that oftenly or pay much attention. And if my storyline reads that I have shared tech y with nation a and nation b that might ring some bells at his side.
Of course I could put it in my story a little later.
Regarding the 'dropping the "twice"' part you both suggest, I agree with that as well, but the twice part is important as part of the compromis to those who wanted a "once" rule (I thought Deity was one of them btw)
I wonder if we can drop the 'twice' part without losing 4 'yes' votes. Which results in anarchy and no compromis at all.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Just for the record, we are getting pretty far in solving this issue. The discussion tires me as well, but if you want to play a game with 14 players then you have to make decisions. Nobody likes it, but that's how it is. And if all contribute at least with saying they'll go with the majority (if they hate discussions) then we're getting somewhere.
Please all answer to the following questions:
1. Do you agree with the TORaCTT rule (trade only researched and conquered techs twice), yes or no?
YES: 6
YES without 'twice': 3
NO: 0
No Opionion: 1
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total: 10 votes (4 votes missing: Kuno, Capo, Raspu, civil_obedience)
2. Can you play friday 23:00 - saturday 02:00 UTC
YES: 8
NO: 2
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total: 10 votes (4 votes missing: Kuno, Capo, Raspu, Schtix)
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LzPrst - YES, YES
CyberShy - YES, YES
Toni - YES, YES
Ozzy - YES, YES
Nolan - YES, YES
MMC - YES without 'twice', YES
Deity - YES without 'twice', YES
Prussia - YES without 'twice', YES
Schtix - YES - ??
Frank - NoOpinion - NO
civil_obedience - ?? - NO
Kuno -
Capo -
Rasputin -Last edited by Robert; August 16, 2006, 10:49.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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also, if 'without twice' is the compromise needed then I am more than willing to accept it. (not changing vote, just saying that if its needed...)
as for the covering our asses comment, I dont feel it's particularly constructive. if you have a genuine complaint about my or someone else's behaviour or suspect a 'hidden agenda', please state your concerns in a civilized manner please. my suggestions have merely been in the interest of what I consider to be the best possible gameplay. if you dont agree, say so. dont throw around snide comments.
also good news, play.com has finally finished processing my order and warlords is in the mail. should have it shortly.Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst
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Actually Fridays are starting to look good again, so I'll opt in for the time slot.
As far as manipulating the tech trading schemes, you have to admit, there's potential for some abuse there. Also there's a tendancy to yeild to "realism" wheh we're playing a game, which is a plan for disaster, and launching expertiments in a game we want a strong foundation in isn't a great idea either.
TORT = trade only researched techs right? We know that works, and it makes people research, or have friends that research.
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Great Frank!
TORT = Trade only researched techs indeed.
TORaCT is the same + conquered techs
The Twice thing means that every tech can only be traded twice. We may have an extra vote on that after this vote (include the 'twice' bit or not)Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Originally posted by Rasputin
I am agaisnt any rules on trading.
And can someone clarify what UTC time is.
Deity, what time Australia is this?
I post this at 21:17 UTC
You can find the various Australian timezones here: (scroll near the bottom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_...s_of_Australia
the gametime conversed to your time will be somewhere between 08:00 - 11:00 and 10:00 - 13:00.Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Originally posted by MMC
UTC is a newer name for GMT
Right now UTC = GMT-1, in the winter UTC = GMT
Currently I am UTC + 2, in the winter I am UTC + 1Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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Originally posted by CyberShy
UTC = London time in the winter
I post this at 21:17 UTC
You can find the various Australian timezones here: (scroll near the bottom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_...s_of_Australia
the gametime conversed to your time will be somewhere between 08:00 - 11:00 and 10:00 - 13:00.GM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71
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