How well are you doing. (The Crossover Metric)

[Ming]

The only inaccuracy was I said noble instead of prince, which I then admited my mistake... You too have made FAR more mistakes, and even admitted a few of them. As far as your O vs D comments, you are still wrong, and are simply backpeddleing yet again. So your idea of "many" is simply a single one.

Not going away and trying to join a well established community are two different things. If your intent is to simply insult those that disagree with you, and tell you when you are indeed wrong, you won't become a member of this community. You may continue to post, assuming the mods don't finally remove you for your constant personal insults and rule breaking, but you won't become a part of this community, just somebody that most will ignore.

[brandonjm8]

The only inaccuracy was I said noble instead of prince, which I then admited my mistake... You too have made FAR more mistakes, and even admitted a few of them. As far as your O vs D comments, you are still wrong, and are simply backpeddleing yet again. So your idea of "many" is simply a single one.

Not going away and trying to join a well established community are two different things. If your intent is to simply insult those that disagree with you, and tell you when you are indeed wrong, you won't become a member of this community. You may continue to post, assuming the mods don't finally remove you for your constant personal insults and rule breaking, but you won't become a part of this community, just somebody that most will ignore.

nope an assumption on your part, do you really want me to post everything that was said on this forum too? alright brb.

im posting this again cuz ming forgot some of the points i made, sorry guys, but just proving a point that ming has yet to accept he did more than make one mistake, many more. also this is just from one page of the other forum, i stopped after one page thinking it'd be enough, if ming insists, i'll quote some more examples from the next.

PART 1:
theben said this: If I'm a PRO civ my defenders are given Drill promos instead of City Defender ones. For the simple reason that SOMEday I'm gonna pull some of those guys away from defense and towards offense. As long as you enjoy the game how you play it, that's fine... no point in playing if you aren't having fun. But I think even you, Brandon, have to admit that the general consensus is that your main style of play isn't optimal.

you said that on dec 23, i never said "all of my D units have CG", an assumption on your part.

you know i was gonna post alot of stuff that you guys neglected to understand or remember, this would be one long post if i do, basically re-read these posts and note the time and dates and then look at all of my points i made go unanswered.

Quote: from me

PART 2
giving your D units the drill promos make them good attacking units too along with good D unitss , oh and before you respond play some marathon so you know how long it takes to build units, you cant run lean then build once someone DoW's on you, then its too late, you gotta constantly build up your army with balance and try to keep in par with the top powers otherwise your "fresh meat" and gold/turn is of little concern when your nation is at stake.

and if you somehow run more than 30-40% gold slider in the mid to late game, you need to go down some levels and learn more aspects of the game, the only time your army should bring you to the point of bankruptcy (10-20% or less gold slider) is very early game, once markets comes it should be easy to at least have a 50% science or higher if you know how to play.
Last edited by brandonjm8; December 27, 2009 at 15:58.
for the most part this went unanswered by many, only woodan acknowledged it. note the date, ive always said to use drill too, i never once said "every single D unit has CG and all you guys should do the same", now stating "I(me) always have and only put CG on my units is a waste" thats what ming's been saying day after day after day and now you theben even after this above post or not once have you guys produced a quote by me that does say "i always give ALL of my D units only CG promo" not once, this is getting old, if your going to talk blind thats fine, if you want to be accurate re-read all the posts, if you did theben re-read the posts, how did you miss this?

but heres what i mean by ming started this...

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PART 3
ming said this, Weren't you glad you had that incredible defensive army to defend against that A total waste of units... dec 28
note that he didnt know what he was talking about, he assumed none of the defenders had drill and failed to acknowledge that i already said that they were for the coming two wars i had right afterward that vassalized them. he also fails to mention how many O units i built too before the invading force i thought was coming, i built 37 knights and 10 cats, but mostly crossbows for defense along the coast but most got drill while some got CG that were only going to defend.

i said this right afterward

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PART 4
maybe if you read what i said then youd know i built my "awesome D" following the invasion thinking that the actual real invasion would come but never did, try again

oh and yeah since i built up my forces i vassalized two civs, wow what a waste

read before commenting, this comment you just posted holds no merit.
me telling him he wasnt paying attention.

then...

ming says this
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PART 5
But yeah... if you want to play at noble, and build up an awesome defense that doesn't do anything, feel free. That's what the game is all about... doing what you want and having fun. But when you try to tell people that it's the best and most awesome strategy... you better expect some disagreement from other players about that flawed strategy.
note i said i play at prince, he wasnt paying attention
note i said i built up O and D, he wasnt paying attention
note nows hes assuming im telling players how and what to do, pretty much hes assuming my opinions are rules to follow
now hes saying my strategy is flawed even tho he hasnt been paying attention so how could he know?
ming likes to talk outta his @$$

and i replied with this
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PART 6
your an idiot, i mean that sincerely. they invaded with a weak force yes but the real invasion might've been coming so building ones army makes sense IN CASE THE REAL INVASION came, so what it didnt, can you read the future? didnt think so, think more before commenting. as i said i built O and D once they invaded so yes that built up led to two civs being vassalized idiot. umm like i said earlier if you were really paying attention at all i said this game is at prince idiot. and i never said what i do is the best FOR ALL i said it works best for me idiot. when you read posts read them more than once, sorry if this post offends anyone but ming is very childish and quick to respond before analyzing whats been said and if you ask me he's an idiot. as always just my opinion.
note i said this after ming's attempt to mock me and speak for me and assume he knows everything about me prior to figuring it out, when somebody starts assuming and putting words into your mouth it gets very annoying. instead of being the adult he is supposed to be and claims to be, he went ahead and made up his mind and attacked my posts when he wasnt even paying attention, he was in his own little world not listening to anybody talking outta his @$$, and your damn right like most of you when someones starts assuming many false things outta ya and puts words in your mouth you would get annoyed too, maybe i couldve not called him an idiot but he couldve payed more attention too. i tried correcting what he thought, he wouldnt listen and made up his mind thus he was acting like an idiot so i called him one. now, put yourself in my shoes and if ming was doing this to you, what would you do? would you ignore him or take the road less traveled and defend yourself and posts? do you like being mocked/words put in your mouth/misunderstood and ming doesnt want to listen? if you could think from an unbiased stance, i think alot of people would agree with me and tell ming to go piss off if hes not going to listen and put words into your mouth.

when ming stops, i'll stop, enough said. if ming wants me to keep my words to myself about him then he needs to do the same thing. as far as im concerned ive lost all patience with ming and no longer respect him.

this isnt the only thread ming doing this, every thread im on hes putting words into my mouth and making his assumptions, everyone has their breaking points and i felt like telling him off, sorry if i offended anyone else, wasnt trying to.
Last edited by brandonjm8; January 12, 2010 at 04:53.

remember this is just ONE page worth of mings assumptions, there are many more and mings not the only one, there are a few others. and as long as they think they arent doing anything wrong/antaganising then this will never end. its up to them. i will continue to post these til my points been dug in deep within their heads.

[Ming]

Feel free as long as you post what you did as well. Just keep back peddleing. You seem to have some practice at it. Now you are a big fan of drill, when before, you didn't even really understand it. But yeah, feel free to post both sides if you dare

Again... become a member of the community... your choice.

[brandonjm8]

Feel free as long as you post what you did as well. Just keep back peddleing. You seem to have some practice at it. Now you are a big fan of drill, when before, you didn't even really understand it. But yeah, feel free to post both sides if you dare

Again... become a member of the community... your choice.

i just did, i'll brb with all those dates. i said what ive always been saying before you made your false assumptions/accusations.

[Ming]

They may be false assumptions (accusations... what are you talking about), but only in your opinion. What you posted was very clear, and then you backpeddeled... over and over again. At least you have learned your lesson about drill.

But again, there is no defense for your personal insults... you keep forgetting to address that issue.... which is the real issue since that's against the rules of this community.

[brandonjm8]

They may be false assumptions (accusations... what are you talking about), but only in your opinion. What you posted was very clear, and then you backpeddeled... over and over again. At least you have learned your lesson about drill.

But again, there is no defense for your personal insults... you keep forgetting to address that issue.... which is the real issue since that's against the rules of this community.

no the real issue here is you were patronizing and mocking me and acting like an idiot so i called you one.

heres the dates of each part, i'll edit my existing post with part numbers and dates are as follows:

part 1 DEC 23

part 2 DEC 27

part 3 DEC 28

part 4 DEC 28 (after part 3)

part 5 DEC 28 (after part 4)

part 6 DEC 29

hmmm... here ya go ming

[Ming]

Your list ignores most of what you posted... I questioned your posts, and your strategy.
You are the one that continues to break the rules by calling people idiots and other personal insults.
You have yet to address your actions... except to say that people disagreed with you.
That's no excuse for your personal attacks.

[brandonjm8]

Your list ignores most of what you posted... I questioned your posts, and your strategy.
You are the one that continues to break the rules by calling people idiots and other personal insults.
You have yet to address your actions... except to say that people disagreed with you.
That's no excuse for your personal attacks.

part 6 is when i called you an idiot, i guess you missed the first 5 parts, what a surprise. all first 5 parts are BEFORE part 6, as i said you started this by acting like a child and patronizing and mocking me, it will end when you want it too, thats the only REAL question, when do you want this to end?

[Ming]

Read the other thread for my response.

As others have pointed out, when you have to resort to personal insults, you have probably lost the argument.

A simple point... discuss the posts, not the poster. I will continue to discuss and have my opinions on what people post in relation to civ. If you don't agree, discuss it in a civil fashion. Don't break the rules and resort to insults.

If you can't do that, you really won't be a member of the community.

[brandonjm8]

no i keep proving my point and you just write it off, you still dont admit the words you used and how you used them were condescending and you were patronizing me. but go ahead and write off what you need too to prove your point instead of taking responsibility for what you say and how you say it. i already said i shouldnt of called you an idiot, yet you wont even admit that you were being condescending, so it looks like you dont want this to end, fine by me, i'll be here everyday to counter every single post you include me in.

[Ming]

I was stating an opinion... you were making personal insults. These are the facts.
It's that simple.

[brandonjm8]

I was stating an opinion... you were making personal insults. These are the facts.
It's that simple.

the words you used and how you said them were condescending, im stating an opinion too. you were acting childish with all the assumptions ive already pointed out. those are the facts, its that simple.

[Senethro]

You're both acting like children and making this board unreadable! Demonstration game now so we can establish whos right already.

[brandonjm8]

You're both acting like children and making this board unreadable! Demonstration game now so we can establish whos right already.

its not the game anymore, its how hes been going about his posts. when you talk down to someone, make numerous assumptions and not care, that person will stick up for themselves. do you notice that im only replying? if they'd stopp this whole thing would stop, apparently some of them dont want to.

and note this

no i keep proving my point and you just write it off, you still dont admit the words you used and how you used them were condescending and you were patronizing me. but go ahead and write off what you need too to prove your point instead of taking responsibility for what you say and how you say it. i already said i shouldnt of called you an idiot, yet you wont even admit that you were being condescending, so it looks like you dont want this to end, fine by me, i'll be here everyday to counter every single post you include me in.

ive already tried to squash this, i gave us the chance to admit we BOTH were wrong and end this, its up to him. now when he says anything to do with me calling him an idiot (he was acting like one) refer to this here post. this isnt the first time ive tried to end this either.

[Senethro]

I'd rather the proof for scientists instead of the proof for politicians. That is, hard evidence instead of words intended to make me look good or someone else look bad.