Questions from a rookie

[Ming]

Thanks for the info... That's exactly what I wanted to know.

[Ben Kenobi]

I keep thinking back to Civ II and the council and Elvis pleading for luxuries.

Interesting. I used to be well known for low taxation and bigtime luxuries (40-60) pct in celebrating Fundy.

10-30-60 I hadn't seen many others do. 10-50-40 is the sweet spot. Maxed out science under celebrating fundy is probably better than the research rate under normal communism.

[Blaupanzer]

No fundy anymore, Ben. Not sure I regret that. I like the 5 civic lines better. Also no advisors. Miss that a bit. We do have wonder animations again.

[rah]

God, when IV first came out and we were still playing II MP and people would say they forgot the proper tech paths and we laughed. But now, I'm sure I have forgotten the old tech tree and what each tech did.

[Blaupanzer]

You could pick it up again. Not completely linear as I recall, unlike III and its "do all the ones in this box to move to that box." But bee-lining to the max as in IV is something all of us grognards wanted. All I remember clearly about the fundamentalist government is that it quashed science, but provided a really cheap 4-point unit that led to 20- or 30-unit stacks of defenders in the cities of the AI that used it.

[Ming]

One thing I remember is that we started learning Civ II at Deity level, and never bothered to play any lower setting. The AI was soooooooooo stupid. While I would lose MP games, I probably didn't lose more than a handful of SP games. And that includes when we developed the Single City Game concept, and even the you can't start a city concept. Even with Civ III, as much as I hated it, it was still simple at the highest level.

On the other hand, the upper levels of Civ IV BTS are REALLY challenging.

[rah]

CIV II MP would need considerable changed before it could compete with the more robust CIV that is IV.

[-Jrabbit]

Ah, the good old days -- celebrating WLTx Days under Fundy and getting sciences like mad from repeat-demand caravans while you built your conquering horde. So simple, so fun.

No such free lunches in IV. Not from what I've seen.

[Alex]

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I suspect foul play.

[Theben]

Was it the linked sigs?

CivII Deity was easy enough, but I had problems with Deity+1-5. It's pretty hard when your 1st person starts out mad.

[Ming]

Deity+1-5

I must be getting old.... HUH?

[rah]

That was the mod that increased all the handicaps and happy penalties. We didn't play with it at all.

[Blaupanzer]

Which doesn't mean you are not getting old!

[rah]

DAT TRUE