RtW Scenario: 1936 World War!

[Karol]

I would leave Africa as wild territory and disallow Settler unit for whole scenario.

What if Belgium had Kongo in Africa? In Civ mechanics this would allow Belgium to have more cities than Germany.

Wild Africa would be just a space for troops. However, it might be pointless for AI to send Afrika Korps to Africa

WWII on Earth-like map may not work as everybody expect...

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by Dale
Fascist Spain (Western Iberia, Portugal, Canary Isles, Spanish Morocco)
[..]
Republican Spain (Eastern Iberia)

With all respects... that's inacurate. You are mistaking "National Spain" and "Fascist Spain". "Fascist Spain" was how their oponents called "National Spain" in order to spoil its reputation and try to convince European democracies into entering the Civil War.

Or...

If you are going to call one side "Fascist Spain" then you should call the other side "Communist Spain".

I know you are paying a lot of effort to make a great job, and it would be a pitty to include such mistake, even if it's a common one. You have mentioned HOI previously in this thread. If you look at it, you will see that there is no "Fascist Spain" there.

Just my 2 cents.

[Kuciwalker]

Actually, I was the one who mentioned HOI

[OliverFA]

oh that's right! My apologies Kuciwalker ;-)

[Kuciwalker]

Really, I just don't want people to think Dale is the jerk

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Dale
England (including Eastern Africa, Middle East, Sub Continent, India,

Does it include Scotland and Wales too?

If you are going to name it, name it Britain or UK, even if it is an English hegemon on the islands.

[Dale]

Kuci:
Italian-Ethiopian war was 35-36. End of December was the last real battle with mop-up operations going till May 36. In the scale of RtW it would be pointless to assign one of the limited civ slots to Ethiopia.

As for Central/South America, none of them declared for either side till Pearl Harbour when the Central American nations joined the allies, and the UN declaration of '42 when South American nations joined the allies. However they never saw action. But these can be simulated through the event system.

BTW, with the limited number of civ slots available, it does make sense to join Portugal with Spain.

Merge Canada to UK? You'd relegate the third largest ally as a colony of UK? You can deal with those crazy complaining Canadians.

Jaybe:
Going by British declarations earlier, Oz/NZ/Canada aren't vassals in civ terms. They'd be allies.

Solver:
What if Riga is the capital of the Baltics then? Would that help?

I would leave Africa as wild territory and disallow Settler unit for whole scenario.

What if Belgium had Kongo in Africa? In Civ mechanics this would allow Belgium to have more cities than Germany.

Wild Africa would be just a space for troops. However, it might be pointless for AI to send Afrika Korps to Africa

WWII on Earth-like map may not work as everybody expect...

Belgium doesn't necessarily have to have more cities than Germany, due to how you set city spacing in the 'wild' areas. Depending on how its setup, a world map can be LOTS of fun.

Oliver:
Yeah, that's just a naming thing. Nationalist and Republic it is.

Dauphin:
I did mean the whole UK.

[Nugog]

Originally posted by Dale
Jaybe:
Going by British declarations earlier, Oz/NZ/Canada aren't vassals in civ terms. They'd be allies.

[Hercules]

Treating N. Ireland, Scotland and Wales as England would be unacceptable: the better term would be UK (United Kingdom).

Canada, Oz and NZ and India and elsewhere in the British Empire, maybe should be the Commonwealth.

Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark should be grouped also as Scandinavia.

There should be a place in the scenario for neutral countries, eg: Ireland, Switzerland, Argentina?, Morocco ?, where spies, refugees, diplomats and others can gain sanctuary / a safe haven for a while.

[Jaybe]

What, PERMANENT ALLIES? I forgot all about those. Much better than vassals.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Dale
Merge Canada to UK? You'd relegate the third largest ally as a colony of UK? You can deal with those crazy complaining Canadians.

Consider the gameplay. Canada would be doing exactly the same thing as the UK - you'd just be splitting them into two separate turns (annoying) and losing a civ slot.

[proviisori]

Originally posted by Hercules


Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark should be grouped also as Scandinavia.

Bah...

that really doesn't make sense.

Sweden was a neutral country, Finland was fighting it's own war against Russia and Norway + Denmark were conquered by Germany.

They all had very different relations to other countries at that time.
Only Denmark and Norway can be possibly grouped together.

I glad that it is pretty sure that Dale will not group Finland to Scandinavian civ.

[Dale]

Originally posted by Hercules
Treating N. Ireland, Scotland and Wales as England would be unacceptable: the better term would be UK (United Kingdom).

Canada, Oz and NZ and India and elsewhere in the British Empire, maybe should be the Commonwealth.

Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark should be grouped also as Scandinavia.

There should be a place in the scenario for neutral countries, eg: Ireland, Switzerland, Argentina?, Morocco ?, where spies, refugees, diplomats and others can gain sanctuary / a safe haven for a while.

I already mentioned above, I said "England" meaning "Great Britain".

Canada, Oz and NZ should really be separate. Canada had completely different goals during the war to the ANZACS. As it was, the ANZACS were the only thing between victory and loss for most of the Pacific (and Australia) till 1943 when the US could start island hopping.

Plus, being an Aussie, they WILL be in.

Scandinavia as one civ is not logical. Norway was allied (German conquered), Sweden neutral and Finland Axis-friendly and fought USSR. All three had different goals for trade, diplomacy and military. They need to be seperate. If Scandinavia is one civ, may as well join UK, France and Spain together.

As for the spies comment, you'll have to wait to play BtS to understand espionage. Neutral countries are NOT quite the "safe haven" you believe.

[Dale]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Consider the gameplay. Canada would be doing exactly the same thing as the UK - you'd just be splitting them into two separate turns (annoying) and losing a civ slot.

Canada was actually at odds with itself most of the war. You had the east screaming for the liberation of France, and the west screaming for the defense of UK.

Caused quite some problems for Canada. I'd like to see them separate, like Oz and NZ and South Africa.

[Kuciwalker]

Canada was actually at odds with itself most of the war. You had the east screaming for the liberation of France, and the west screaming for the defense of UK.

Caused quite some problems for Canada.

That's representable in-game how?