RtW Scenario: 1936 World War!

[Harrier UK]

Starting in 1936 with 36 civs.

Superpowers: (8)

UK
USA
France
Soviet Union
Germany
Italy
Japan
China


Europe: (9)

Spain
Finland
Norway
Poland
Austria
Hungary
Romania
Yugoslavia
Greece

Africa: (4)

Ethiopia
South Africa
Belgan Congo
Portugese colonies

Asia: (6)

India
Saudi Arabia
Syria
Iran
Afghanistan
Thialand


America's: (6)

Canada
Brazil
Argentina
Mexico
Cental American states
South American West coast states


Pacific: (3)

Australia
New Zealand
Dutch East Indies

Thats 36 civs.

Because of space limitations particularly in Europe You may want to combine some civs into one.

e.g. Austria, Hungary and Romania. Yugoslavia and Greece.

That will free up civs that can be used to represent any other neutrals not listed above.

e.g. Ireland, Switzland (probably no space on the map - could represent it as a tile no one can enter) , Sweden etc.



The colonial powers will also have there own cities on the map in the relevent places. Africa, Asia, Pacific etc. If not already included as a seperate civ.

[couerdelion]

Apart from the main European agitators (Germany, Italy, Soviet Union, Britain, France) there ought to be

Poland
Yugoslavia
Greece
Turkey

possibly also

Netherlands
Sweden
Czechoslovakia
Spain

but not Austria (part of Germany) or Ukraine (part of Soviet Union)

Further afield, then you would have to include

Japan
US
China

so you're already up to 12 even before you start on the second European list so there will have to be some "merging" going on

eg Greater Romania
Turkeystan
Scandinavia
Commonwealth
Republic of South America

[Dale]

How about this list?

Germany (including East Prussia)
Italy (including Albania, Ethiopia)
Japan (including Pacific Isles, Korea, Manchuria)
China
England (including Eastern Africa, Middle East, Sub Continent, India, Pacific Isles)
France (including Western Africa, North Middle East, Pacific Isles)
USA (including Panama & Pacific Isles)
USSR

Arabia
Austria
Australia
Baltic States (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia)
Brazil
Canada
Central America (including Carribean)
Czechoslovakia
East Balkan (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria)
Fascist Spain (Western Iberia, Portugal, Canary Isles, Spanish Morocco)
Finland
Ireland
Low Countries (Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg, Belgium Congo, Dutch East Indies)
Mexico
Mongolia
New Zealand
Norway
Persia
Philippines
Poland
Republican Spain (Eastern Iberia)
Siam
South Africa
South America (Non Brazil)
Sweden
Turkey
West Balkan (Yugoslavia, Greece)

[Dale]

Comments on other mentioned nations:

Ethiopia - Italian conquered
Switzerland - Not feasible on map
Iran/Iraq - Iraq UK territory (just) Iran was Persia
Chinese Communists - Temporary alliance with Nationalists to fight Japan
India - UK territory
Egypt - UK territory
South American nations - Did nothing for war, add nothing to game as separate nations
Central American nations - Did nothing for war, add nothing to game as separate nations
Pakistan - UK territory
Ukraine - A Soviet
Korea (both or one?) - Japanese territory
Indonesia - Dutch territory
Portugal - Combined with Spain
Myanmar - (Burma) UK territory
Vietnam - French territory
Israel - UK territory
Kazakhstan - Soviet
Uzbekistan - Soviet
Bangladesh - UK territory
Syria - French territory

[ptzvetan]

Originally posted by Dale
How about this list?

Brazil

Mexico

South America (Non Brazil)

South American nations - Did nothing for war, add nothing to game as separate nations

I missed the point

[Dale]

Difference with Mexico and Brazil were that they were Axis-friendly and could've easily been a threat to the US.

[Jaybe]

Do Canada, NZ & Australia get to be vassals of GB, they being part of the commonwealth?

[Solver]

If you ever create a scenario where I can start as Latvia in 1936 and conquer the USSR by 1950, I'll be happy

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Dale
Comments on other mentioned nations:

Ethiopia - Italian conquered

Not at the start of 1936. Why start so early if you miss out on the early conflicts?

South American nations - Did nothing for war, add nothing to game as separate nations

They were important trading partners, and many entered the war.

[Kuciwalker]

Portugal - Combined with Spain

That doesn't really make sense.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Solver
If you ever create a scenario where I can start as Latvia in 1936 and conquer the USSR by 1950, I'll be happy

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
This already exists, it's called "Hearts of Iron."

[Solver]

HoI doesn't count.

[Kuciwalker]

I would merge Canada and UK, frankly. There's not much a Canadian player could do except send a few units over to Europe, anyway. OTOH, Oz/NZ (which should be combined also) can be played if you want to do stuff with them in the Pacific.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Solver
HoI doesn't count.

[Solver]

It doesn't for me. It's not something I could get into.