Wat do u want to see in civ 5?

[Nikolai]

Somebody ought to tell the Vatican.

[LordShiva]

They know, they just don't have a source of saltpetre.

[Nikolai]

Somebody ought to tell them to upgrade to Civ4.

[Dis]

was that a joke post on the previous page?

suicide bombers as a unit?

[Yaga]

Diplomacy Requests:
1. Non-Aggression Treaties : Arbitrary-length treaties wherein two Civs promise not to go to war with one another. These could be bought off with resources and/or gold and/or State Religion : "Here's Fur, Spices, and 5 gp/turn, now PLEASE don't attack me!" or, "Hey, so long as we maintain our Open Borders and you're Hindi, I promise not to attack you. I might not defend you, but..."

2. Not-My-Affair Declarations : If Vicky and Tokugawa want to spent 2,000 years sporadically declaring war on one another and trading cities, that's fine -- but I'd like them to stop asking me to participate given they're podunk Civs half way around the world.

3. Civilian vs Military Open Borders : At some point one should be able to close one's borders to foreign civ's military units yet still allow explorers, great people, workers, etc. Similarly, if Cyrus has to cross Egypt to attack me, he should have to make special arrangements with Happy and not just wander over. Finally, if I then go to Happy and ask her to close her borders to Cyrus's troops, *Cyrus* should get the Diplo hit if he decides to declare war on Happy to get to me.

Religious Requests:
4. It's my religion, I can stop your petty war if I want to: I have the Christian Holy City and I've built the Church of the Nativity. Napolean and Asoka, both Christian States, go to war with one another. I should be able to have some sort of diplomatic option to stop them slaughtering one another

5. It's my religion, I can declare a holy war if I want to: As above, but require all Christian State Civs to declare war on some other religion. If they refuse -- Schisms!

6. They're both my religions, I can declare reciprocity if I want to: I have founded Hinduism and Taoism; I should be able to make some sort of "can't we all just get along" declaration so that those two religions don't consider each other "Heathen"

7. It's not my religion, get it out of my civ! With varying results and unhappiness, Anti-Missionaries that can go around and try to stamp out unwanted religions in my Civ.

Trade Requests:
1. Notification when a new commodity comes on the market / new trade routes open up. Something akin to the Great Person Born in ... notification : "Galleons from India arrive in London bearing Spices, Pigs, and Gems for trade..." Otherwise you have to remember to hit F4 every turn to see if someone's got something.

2. Some sense of resource scarcity affecting prices. If 4 Civs have Dye to trade, they shouldn't *all* want 30/gp a turn. Simiarly, if one Civ has all the Dye, they should charge 60/gp turn.

3. With *insert tech here* Deficit spending : No more selling Replaceable parts for World Map and 200 GP just because you really need the cash; Civs use debt, loan gold, etc.

It's long, but hey -- I play at Marathon

[Cort Haus]

I want to be able to win without a single war.

Not hard on Prince, I find. That is, until Blake's pop-rushing AI gets incorporated, and the AI wil be able to whip & draft mighty armies in no time.

I think some of us might need to move our peaceful games down a level when that comes in.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Yaga
3. Civilian vs Military Open Borders :

I liked this one.

7. It's not my religion, get it out of my civ! With varying results and unhappiness, Anti-Missionaries that can go around and try to stamp out unwanted religions in my Civ.

As long as you don't mind the AI doing it to you.

[padillah]

Originally posted by Yaga
Diplomacy Requests:

3. Civilian vs Military Open Borders : At some point one should be able to close one's borders to foreign civ's military units yet still allow explorers, great people, workers, etc. Similarly, if Cyrus has to cross Egypt to attack me, he should have to make special arrangements with Happy and not just wander over. Finally, if I then go to Happy and ask her to close her borders to Cyrus's troops, *Cyrus* should get the Diplo hit if he decides to declare war on Happy to get to me.

I like it but wouldn't this just be an extension of the Non-Aggression Treaty?

Tom P.

[_BuRjaCi_]

Originally posted by Bobby Chicken


I know the stories are a myth. Duh. But Arthur was a real person and if he wasn't he was at least based on a real person. Who cares if they were backwater? If the Japanese have Tokagawa as a leader and the French have Louis 14th, why not Arthur? the heart of civ in my opinion.

In the time of Louis the XIV, France was definitly not backwater.

[_BuRjaCi_]

Religion should be improved.
-I want to be able to declare a holy war or djihad against the infidels if I have a holy city.
-Or make a declaration about "that other religion ain't so bad" so that the heathen penalty is reduced.
-Or use the religius tech tree to modify my religion and impose chivic like policy changes that affect the whole religion.
-Or found a splinter group (like protestants or shiite) with its own holy city (wich would only provide gold for citys that are protestan, while the city where christianity was founded would get gold for all christian citys), it would be like the way, the Vatican is special for chatolics or Constantinopel was for the qrthodox church but they didn't replace Jerusalem wich is special to all Chrisitans (more that their "sect" holy citys). That way you colud have control over that version of the religon, but would have a heretic diplomacy penalty (unless you convince everyone that a reformation is nesecary)- your missionarys could spread the "herecy" more easily to city's wich have christianity. City's that don't would become christian and protestant (as an example). The Vatican could still show the Arab protestants that catholicism is better.

[Addled Platypus]

Originally posted by Dis
uhh, did anyone actually read the OP. Those didn't seem like serious inclusions. Hence my spam comment.

never assume

[padillah]

Originally posted by _BuRjaCi_
Religion should be improved.
-I want to be able to declare a holy war or djihad against the infidels if I have a holy city.

How would this be different than just a war? How does the intent change the process of fighting?

Tom P.

[Yaga]

Originally posted by padillah


How would this be different than just a war? How does the intent change the process of fighting?

Tom P.

This would, I believe, be a call for all Civs with XYZ religion as their State Rel to declare war on all Civs with ABC as their State Rel, regardless of other agreements or aliances.

The options for subscribers would be to either join the Jihad/Crusade/etc, or abandon XYZ as their State Rel.

[Yaga]

Originally posted by Cort Haus

I liked this one.

As long as you don't mind the AI doing it to you.

Anything to have the AI take a more active role in Religions.

[Yaga]

Originally posted by padillah

I like it but wouldn't this just be an extension of the Non-Aggression Treaty?

Tom P.

Perhaps. The greater objective here is for the AI to be more responsible for their non-interference, taking the same sort of Diplo hit for allowing a civ to use their lands to attack another civ as the player takes for (for example) not cancelling their trade agreements with a civ's 'worst enemy'.