Unique Buildings!

[Apocalypse]

Walmart trumps supermarket more than a mall for the Americans

[Nikolai]

No, I think he has learned now.

[Martinus]

Actually I think Vikings should have something to replace the Lighthouse or the Harbour. The hill fort was technologically less advanced than a normal castle, so it would be a bit weird to have it as a special building.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
Locutus strikes again with great knowledge and information

I really think he is wrong about the buildings replacing regular buildings.

It wouldn't make sense really going that route. If the bonus is decent that having it in every city would be too unbalancing, if you tone down the bonus then it wouldn't be worth building it in every city.

I think a National Wonder of some kind will be the way they'll go.

[The keeper]

Germans could have the autoban.

[Harrier UK]

May be wrong here - but it may be based on TAM - "The Ancient Mediterainian " mod from civ3 - if my memory serves me right, I think each civ in that mod had a unique building. Something like a national wonder.

[CarnalCanaan]

I think the unique National Wonder makes more sense.

First, replacing buildings for each civ might get tedious. What unique building would the Malinese have? Or, for that matter, the Zulu (who will make a glorious come-back any day now...)?

Second, the unique national wonder makes it possible to put in many minor world wonders that don't necessarily warrant an in-game version (such as the Sphinx for Egypt or the Empire State Building for America).

Although this does make some odd overlap with other structures of distinct national identity (such as the Globe Theater or the Forbidden Palace) which have already been pinned as common buildings.

[royrules22]

Ok what does Fort have to do much with India?

[OzzyKP]

Hehe, good question roy. That's why a national wonder makes more sense.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by royrules22
Ok what does Fort have to do much with India?

Indians were expert fort builders, they built many large, impressive, famous forts, such as the Red Fort, Lahore Fort, Agra Fort, Golkonda, etc.

But it's by no means the only option, India has a very rich cultural and architectural history. Another good option for India that I also considered would be a Mausoleum.

But I shouldn't say more, as I now know what the Unique Buildings in Warlords will actually be (or at least what's in the planning, nothing's final and I have a few things to say about the current selection )

[Martinus]

Yeah I suppose gameplay-wise unique NWs make more sense, although the feature list says "unique building", not "unique NW", which implies they replace some ordinary building (the same way a "unique unit" replaces ordinary unit).

[allybhoy]

would they make it more specific? That each building is different, so that no two civs have a castle upgrade, or a

Granary, Egyptian, per-hapi-n-on, stores 60% of food after city growth

Temple, Persian, 20% Culture

Library,

Cathedral, France, 6gpp

Lighthouse,

Harbour,

Castle,

Walls, China, 10% defence before gunpowder

Market, Mali, Bazaar, 30% commerce

Bank, England, Building society, 110% commerce

Barracks, Greece, Gymnasium, 5 experience

Dont have time to fill everything in at the moment

[proviisori]

That would be IMHO hard to balance.

[allybhoy]

I think you are right Flamer, but if done properly it would accentuate the differences etween the civs, making each civ stand out more.

[Canary26]

For England what about Bletchly Park, reveals all enemy units on the map?? And then deny we had it for the next 50 years!