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**Swiss Pauli** · May 22, 2006, 06:33

So...how about an Emperor level game? Anyone interested?

**rjmatsleepers** · May 22, 2006, 07:21

Originally posted by Swiss Pauli
So...how about an Emperor level game? Anyone interested?

Count me in.

RJM

**solo** · May 22, 2006, 10:47

Me, too, although I will be away from 5/24 until about 5/30 or 5/31.

SP, would you like to post an Emperor start we can use for this game?

**Swiss Pauli** · May 22, 2006, 11:37

Originally posted by solo
Me, too, although I will be away from 5/24 until about 5/30 or 5/31.

SP, would you like to post an Emperor start we can use for this game?

No problem to post a start, but which leader and map? I definitely need one of the better leaders to save me from an early demise!

**rjmatsleepers** · May 22, 2006, 11:45

I like Lizzie or Saladin. I'm willing to give Gandhi a try. Among the others, someone with either a philosophical or financial trait would suit me.

Any map is OK by me.

RJM

**solo** · May 22, 2006, 12:22

Anything is fine with me, as long as it is different from what we have used in previous games. If a start is posted soon enough, I will try to have my first turnset completed before I leave on thursday.

**mdbill** · May 22, 2006, 12:47

Not Lizzie. She's overworked. I like the idea of industrial since chopping is less effective now.

**Swiss Pauli** · May 22, 2006, 15:33

What about Alex? With AGG and PHI he (ahem) swings both ways.

I think IND is still rather weak: 50% bonus isn't really that exciting.

**mdbill** · May 22, 2006, 17:57

Originally posted by Swiss Pauli
What about Alex? With AGG and PHI he (ahem) swings both ways.

I think IND is still rather weak: 50% bonus isn't really that exciting.

Alex would be different. Sounds fun.

Having said that. I'd like to comment that AGG is one of the most useless (and unexciting) traits for the games I usually play. Maybe I'll change my style for this one.

I'd also like to comment that IND is better at higher skill levels. It is sometimes the only way to get those important early wonders. Forest chops go back up to 30 for chopping wonders. Of course, this is "only" Emperor level

We can save IND for Diety.

**mdbill** · May 22, 2006, 18:03

So did anyone notice the different feel of the ice age map? or did you all forget we played Ice Age? (like I did)

It was missing Copper. That was different.

**solo** · May 22, 2006, 18:35

The only difference I notice with Ice Age is less usuable terrain. This can help at deity, since it limits the rapid early expansion of the AI somewhat.

Also congrats on the best finish in the last game. How many specialists did you end up with? How many beakers near the end?

**uberfish** · May 22, 2006, 20:22

The AI routinely builds Oracle before 2000 BC on Deity now, I don't think industrious is worth much there unless playing OCC. I don't really attempt wonders before Great Library / Hanging Gardens except for Pyramids with stone within the capital radius.

Industrious is pretty good at emperor and below.

**rjmatsleepers** · May 23, 2006, 01:10

Originally posted by mdbill
So did anyone notice the different feel of the ice age map? or did you all forget we played Ice Age? (like I did)

It was missing Copper. That was different.

It was very diferent from any map I've ever played before, but I'm not sure whether that was ice age or something else.

As to the lack of copper - presumably that was simply Loki at work.

RJM