Why Firaxians are so drammatically scared by mountains ?

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Destroyer
How many helicopters is that?

That depends on several factors, but under "standard"conditions, most AH-64D Apache Longbow battalions have three companies -- with each company having eight AH-64D attack helicopters. So 24 per battalion.

This doesn't include other transport helicopters, command, scout copters, etc.

[Yolky]

Originally posted by Bill3000
Because, for the first time in Civ, mountains are what they should be: A natural barrier.

So how come people live in Denver Colorado USA? That is pretty hi and I wouldn't consider that a hill but mountian. So how is that a barrier then?

Mountians shouldn't have been a barrier. Maybe in the begining of the game, but after researching technology they should be able to be accesable.

[Yolky]

Originally posted by Error404
I've yet to see an Apache helicopter battle the winds of the Mt.Everest peak and win, crossing it... or a tunnel beneath it

I have yet to see a unit of warriors in real life defeat a stronger army just because the city has 40% defence culture.

also, Just because Mt. Evererst didn't have an Apache helicopter battle the winds it has been done numerous other places of the world, as well as other cities are in mountians as well.

[Yolky]

also I find it funny that a tile of forest will give you more production than a tile of mountian, wich is ZERO. the forest should be long gone while a mined mountian should last a very long time.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Yolky


So how come people live in Denver Colorado USA? That is pretty hi and I wouldn't consider that a hill but mountian. So how is that a barrier then?

Mountians shouldn't have been a barrier. Maybe in the begining of the game, but after researching technology they should be able to be accesable.

Denver is on plains, not on a mountain. Bad example.

Yes there are cities in the mountains, but they are on the hilly part of the mountains. They are not on the peaks.

Peaks represent class 3 terrain and above. You move entire companies through that kind of terrain.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Yolky


I have yet to see a unit of warriors in real life defeat a stronger army just because the city has 40% defence culture.

The cultural defense modifier represents, in my view, the maze of city streets which grow up as a city matures.

i.e. Stalingrad

Streetfighting gives defenders a unique advantage in combat. Bombardment represents the razing of the city's civilian structures, lowering this advantage.

[Dis]

culture also represents (at least to me) the willingness of the civilian population of a city to resist and not aid the enemy attack of a city.

[Gunter]

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I think Firaxians must absolutely patch it before the evidence get embarassing........


Gunter

[Yolky]

guess i was proven wrong again,

[Josquius]

Brainstorming-

Maybe when crossing a mountain a unit has a chance of getting lost ala the old style trimene lost at sea.

It takes many turns to cross mountains.

Units loose health in mountains.

(for future games) model land height as a property of tiles rather then just hills, flat or mountains.

[Kc7mxo]

Yes there are cities in the mountains, but they are on the hilly part of the mountains. They are not on the peaks.

what about the incas?

[Colonâ„¢]

Population of that "city" was only several hundreds.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Losses and terrain design

Originally posted by JohnUghrin
To me, it would make more sense if Deserts, Mountains, perhaps even Jungle terrain caused a small amount of damage to units each turn. Then you could have an "Alpine" promotion to offset it.

Marvellous idea.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Xuenay
Alpine troops sound to me like they'd be a pretty useless idea. So we have a special unit type whose main purpose is their ability to move in mountain squares...

...which are so rare on the map anyway that at worst I need to take one extra turn to just go around them with regular troops.

I don't think I'd ever bother building alpine troops - I'd just keep building the (presumably) cheaper regular ones. Much more effective that way.

It appears that you haven't seen a mountain range flanked by hilly terrain.

[Bill3000]

Does anyone know if there is an "ignore impassable terrain" flag available right now without having to create one, anyways?