The Culture Bomb

[Boris Godunov]

Culture bombs are awesome. I'll save up Great Artists to do them en masse sometimes. Weeeeeee!

[heilopolis]

I was only two rounds from my cultural victory, playing on monarch, when that "$§"$!§°§°²³³!! Aztec bastard flew into space..... But since this is my second game, I know now that if i started over on the same map i would have achived it. Didnt invent calendar until it was no other tech options... and that was in the 1900s something. Just to get those Obelisks keep on pumping culture.....

[nathanebht]

Great Artist culture bombs are fun in the early game. One civ declared war right after I set it off though. Culture will cause unrest in a city after it drops the civ influence to 0%.

City unrest somehow interacts with military units you have fortified in the city. I saw some damage to two fortified Redcoats because of it. However the city came out of the cultural unrest and stayed mine.

I had another city, I took it militarily, lose all the land directly around it due to a neighboring civ. With this city the two Redcoats I had stationed in it didn't prevent the unrest from succeeding and it went to that other civ.

[fypo13]

Originally posted by gerf


I'm playing on an Averatec 6235, with integrated video (1.8GHz A64, 512MB -128MBvideo RAM). It's kinda choppy though, and I don't reccomend it. I imagine a video card in a new laptop would be spiffy enough

Oh... what types of maps do you play... I have a notebook and was planning to buy the game but shied out because i think it won't work on my Intel 82852/55 Motherboard with Intel Pentium M Processor (1.6 GHz) and 512 MB RAM (64MB for video)... Intel processors, as advertised, is not compatible with T&L, but sources say it can be simulated by directx 9.0c...

Can you tell me how choppy it was? And is there such a thing as an external video card? a usb type?

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by nathanebht
I had another city, I took it militarily, lose all the land directly around it due to a neighboring civ. With this city the two Redcoats I had stationed in it didn't prevent the unrest from succeeding and it went to that other civ.

Garrr, I had something similar happen to me. I had taken out the Egyptians, who bordered me to the NE. The Arabs bordered me to the SE, and beyond them were the Aztecs. Montezuma up and declared war on me, so I rolled on over and gobbled up 4 of his cities (he was way behind tech-wise). But I ended up losing 3 of the 4 cities to the Arabs, whose culture swooped on over.

[animaster]

Playing on Noble dificulty with Ghandi (India) i am behind in techs but ahead in Culture at 1905.

I have used 4 artists as culture bombs to grab important resources that the opponent had controll over. It's important to get the culture production up fast as big cities tend to grab back the bombed area. (offcourse sending in another artist to bomb buys you more time )

[Aro]

I have used cultural bombs against my neighbors Egyptians too... And the AI did the same! They dropped the cultural bomb just two turns after I did it, and reverted everything! In fact, their city was much more developed, and they gained a lot of tiles.
Smart Hatshepsut! And she looks yummy, too... Like Halle Berry!

[Bill3000]

Personally, I've found the Great Artist's Culture Bomb to be my favorite action out of any Great Person. Nothing is more satisfying than being able to have control over those annoying borders without going to war.

[teutonic_knight]

I feel this "culture bomb" works better than it did in Civ III. I remember pumping $ into lux and being able to conquer with culture. Now in Civ IV, they make it easier. However, I have found out it is easier depending on your civ leader! (yeah I know, that is a no-brainer)

[Bill3000]

There was no culture bomb in Civ3. A culture bomb is an immediate one-time increase of culture. What you describe is the normal way of producing massive culture by increasing the rates that would make culture production go faster - that is not a culture bomb.

[Datajack Franit]

Still, civ4 seems to be a little too much dependant on great people

[teutonic_knight]

Originally posted by Bill3000
There was no culture bomb in Civ3. A culture bomb is an immediate one-time increase of culture. What you describe is the normal way of producing massive culture by increasing the rates that would make culture production go faster - that is not a culture bomb.

That is why I put "culture bomb" in quotes, sorry for the confusion.




However, in Civ III, you could put heavy culture-rich wonders, that did have an fairly quick reaction to rival civs.

[Mace]

Let's be old school in our definition of "culture bomb".
IMO, teutonic_knight is more correct in defining "culture bomb". It's not just GA's dropping masterpieces on a city. In years past (Civ3) the term "culture bomb" was used to describe building massive amounts of culture improvements in a city/cities near the AI to expand one's borders and shrink theirs. I for one will continue to use that definition of culture bomb in Civ4...it's not JUST a masterpiece, but also the theatres, etc. with it. IMHO.Peace out.

[Mace]

Originally posted by Bill3000
There was no culture bomb in Civ3. A culture bomb is an immediate one-time increase of culture. What you describe is the normal way of producing massive culture by increasing the rates that would make culture production go faster - that is not a culture bomb.

Well IMO that is in fact the way we used to define "culture bomb". and it's the way I'll continue to define it. When I say, I, "culture bombed the Mali" it will mean lots of culture imp's in the cities near the mali, and yes, that may include some Great Artist masterpieces as well.

[jdchambe]

Originally posted by Mace
Let's be old school in our definition of "culture bomb".
IMO, teutonic_knight is more correct in defining "culture bomb". It's not just GA's dropping masterpieces on a city. In years past (Civ3) the term "culture bomb" was used to describe building massive amounts of culture improvements in a city/cities near the AI to expand one's borders and shrink theirs. I for one will continue to use that definition of culture bomb in Civ4...it's not JUST a masterpiece, but also the theatres, etc. with it. IMHO.Peace out.

also: the OP was using teutonic_knight's definition of culture bomb when he posed the original question. He appeared to me to clearly NOT be talking only about great artists, but about the culture victory in general.