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  • #46
    Originally posted by Joseph
    Its call stealing as in taking somthing that is not yours to take.
    Copying, not stealing.
    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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    • #47
      Originally posted by The_Aussie_Lurker
      We have had it effectively confirmed that borders can either be closed or open. If closed, nothing gets through. If open, the everything gets through. Personally, though, I think a middle road needs to exist-one where borders can be in a 'normal' state-between open and closed. In such a state NORMAL units can't pass over the borders, but certain special units (spies and missionaries, for instance) can.
      If 'special' doesn't include settlers, I'm all for it.
      "As far as general advice on mod-making: Go slow as far as adding new things to the game until you have the basic game all smoothed out ... Make sure the things you change are really imbalances and not just something that doesn't fit with your particular style of play." - WesW

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      • #48
        In my own 'world-view', the thing which would define 'special' for the purposes of borders would be (a) invisible units and/or (b) units with a flag saying 'ignore normal borders'. Either way, I would not see any reason for workers or settlers to have either the flag or be invsible.
        The way I see it, having open borders might allow settlers and other units into your territory, but it gives a nice big boost to international trade. By the same token, if you suspect another civ is conducting 'covert warfare' against you-using invisible or properly flagged units-then you should be able to shut your borders-thus sealing it against all comers, but at the cost of your reputation with that civ AND a big hit to any trade which you might currently be enjoying.
        However, between these two states should exist the normal border, where both trade is normal and almost all foreign units are kept from your nation under threat of war.

        Yours,
        Aussie_Lurker.

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        • #49
          T_A_L:
          to be precice, it is written "can bombard city defences".
          but your argumentation makes sence, probably more than mine
          i just thought that the brackets refer to the frigate (bombarder) and not to the bombardee
          - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
          - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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          • #50
            Oh, I saw a sceen shot of the Internet wonder that had Al Gore's pic on it. Now its a moral imperative not to spend a cent on this product.

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            • #51
              All of the artwork is especially woeful.

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              • #52
                From what I know and have seen, its option 1 all the way.

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                • #53
                  I'm more then a little scared by the fact that most of the media won't get pre-ship date versions of the game to review. The vast majority of the game review sites will only get their reviews after the game has already shipped. That is a very bad sign and a break with industry standards. could it be they are attempting to delay the inevitable?
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Capt Dizle
                    Oh, I saw a sceen shot of the Internet wonder that had Al Gore's pic on it. Now its a moral imperative not to spend a cent on this product.
                    so you don't support humour?
                    - Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity
                    - Atheism is a nonprophet organization.

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                    • #55
                      And I thought conservatives were the ones pushing the whole "Al Gore invented the internet" stuff... now they are offended by the joke?
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #56
                        Option 1. I enjoyed Civ3 enormously (never really understood my everybody keeps hacking on it), but this seems to really take Civ to a kind of next level I am really looking foward to experiencing.
                        "Give me a soft, green mushroom and I'll rule the world!" - TheArgh
                        "No battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy." - Murphy's law
                        Anthéa, 5800 pixel wide extravaganza (french)

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          I'm more then a little scared by the fact that most of the media won't get pre-ship date versions of the game to review. The vast majority of the game review sites will only get their reviews after the game has already shipped. That is a very bad sign and a break with industry standards. could it be they are attempting to delay the inevitable?

                          Cite?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by sabrewolf

                            so you don't support humour?
                            Oh, excuse me, I didn't know that Civ was supposed to be a farce. I thought it was supposed to be serious gaming. I guess the cartoonish artwork and simplistic gamplay make sense if you view Civ as more or less equivalent to a SNL skit.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Capt Dizle
                              Oh, I saw a sceen shot of the Internet wonder that had Al Gore's pic on it. Now its a moral imperative not to spend a cent on this product.


                              Pull the cactus out of your *ss.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • #60
                                I thought it was supposed to be serious gaming.


                                And when you saw the culture advisor in Civ2, did you write a letter to your Congressman?
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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