I'm Still not convinced

[asleepathewheel]

I'm convinced.....

that Sir Ralph is my hero

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Cataphract887
you 2 are dating? are you gay?

Prejudice:

[yin26]

Wait for Civ 4 to hit the bargain bin after all the expansions are done, etc. No doubt you'll get some good gaming at a fair price and access to a lot of fan content if you wait. And here are some other hints:

1] Posting criticism of a Civ game at Poly takes a certain pinache ... failing that, thick skin.

2] Not having the willpower to wait long enough for Civ 4 to get through patches and expansion packs before buying would just indicate a lack of willpower, for which one can only blame himself.

[ozmono1914]

I won't be waiting
THE MAJOR THING I SAID WAS I LIKED THE GAME SO MUCH THAT I'D BUY IT HOWEVER

I ALSO SAID I WAS FUSTRATED BY THE LACK OF PROGRESS IN REGARDS TO CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN STRATEGIC GAMES.

Dale was right in some ways I did AS I ALREADY SAID over exgratted, the OP didn't ACTUALLY REFLECT MY POST, my title did

Dale as far as many of the aussie sterotypes goes your going to have to speak for yourself. FIRSTLY MY HOMELAND IS NOT ENGLAND its all over EUROPE AS IS THE "TRADITIONAL AUSTRALIAN" however its all changing I live in Sydney and in time I think people will be saying there homeland is Asia

Main thing here is its all been said. BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL TAKING ME OUT OF CONTEXT. I suppose if I had spelt certain words correctly and made myself a little clearer it would no longer be a problem BUT if you are still UNSURE(sincerly and not just trying to have a shot a me) than the thread already contains the info required to gain the certainity.

Obviously as I was starting the thread if you look at my post, Solvers and many others who addressed what I said you should find the following


1. The OP gives the wrong impression, The title to the first post is much more approaite

2. I wanted more and like a child in a toy store was having a hissy fit. I exgratted my true feeling

3. It comes down to personal preference from what you want from games

4. I wish that DEVS could afford to cater for people like myself who don't care as much for UI and graphics as I do strategic depth

5. I expressed uncertainity as the press realeses stress graphical and interface improvements over all others and the new features aren't that new(think CTP II)

6. Solver correctly poited out that they have to do that in order to make profits AND THAT IT IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THE FRANCHISE WILL SURVIVE IF THEY OBEY THE DEMANDS OF THE MASSES whilst I agree it does not change my 4th point

7. I do expect the game to be an improvement over CIV III and that does not mean MEDIOCRE at best

8. All pettyness and bickering between myself and others involved is water under the bridge

[yin26]

Well, if you have a "buy at all costs" mentality, you deserve any garbage that comes your way. Best of luck to you.

[ozmono1914]

As Solver and others said there is a big production team behind it and AS I STATED MANY TIMES I AM OVERLY CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL BE A IMPROVEMENT OVER THREE

The features and screenshoots to date convince me of this, I really don't expect it to be backwards for CIV III and if Reviewers say differently than I WILL STILL SEE FOR MYSELF

CIV IV IF IT DOESN'T IMPROVE ON III will make me not buy a CIV V but since there is no real competetion for a game such as civ than I'll take my chances and buy it based on the info avialable to date(PS I THINK THOSE CHANCES ARE VERY GOOD)

I JUST DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING GROUNDBREAKING IN TERMS OF WHAT I LOOK FOR IN STRATEGY GAMES

but theres no way I won't be buying it

As far as the points you made I didn't address such as posting critizism on civ at poly and willpower in regards to civ your right but the thing is I have no reason to care

[Xorbon]

ozmono:

First thing: STOP USING SO MANY CAPS!!! You're giving me a headache reading your posts! There are bold, italics, and underline tags that you can use to emphasize points instead.

Now, back on topic. I think your concerns are valid, though I don't share them. I've seen others on this forum with similar concerns about an unnecessary amount of time/money being spent on prettying the game up, so you're not alone.

Personally, I like to take the 'wait-and-see' attitude.

[Sava]

Yin posts

oz

making RANDOM WORDS into caps does not help MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT any stronger...

it makes it more ANNOYING FOR US TO READ

do you TALK LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE? speaking normally BUT THEN changing the TONE OF YOUR VOICE randomly IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE THINGS?!

[Aro]

Originally posted by Sava

making RANDOM WORDS into caps does not help MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT any stronger...

it makes it more ANNOYING FOR US TO READ

do you TALK LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE? speaking normally BUT THEN changing the TONE OF YOUR VOICE randomly IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE THINGS?!

ROFLMAO

...randomly...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by ozmono1914
nothing substantial? I disagree there is a wealth of information out there this site has huge amounts, in fact you have more info about civ IV on this site than most sites have about a game they've already previewed(and I don't mean e3 preview)

So? Do you know specifically how the civics work?

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Sava
Yin posts

oz

making RANDOM WORDS into caps does not help MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT any stronger...

it makes it more ANNOYING FOR US TO READ

do you TALK LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE? speaking normally BUT THEN changing the TONE OF YOUR VOICE randomly IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE THINGS?!

who let you out of the OTF?

[binTravkin]

Just on the choice of 'name' of the person/institution you choose to complain about.

Yeah, I liked this 'sit and wait', if we all just sat and waited, this forum would be a barren vasteland with little sign of human presence.

The word for that is mast...... ummm yea I know, that's a family site and all that.

No need to get rude, I was not saying anything bad about you, just disliked the phrase you said for reasons explained above and tried inserting it in the generator.
Wasn't the text funny? I liked it..

[Harovan]

Originally posted by binTravkin
No need to get rude, I was not saying anything bad about you, just disliked the phrase you said for reasons explained above and tried inserting it in the generator.

You might have missed the fact, that I wrote that statement in jest, just like about every other in this thread.

Wasn't the text funny?

No.

But fun is just like beauty in the eye of the beholder.

[Drakan]

Originally posted by H Tower
Then show me a useful idea that was posted within a newcomer's first 10 posts. Because I haven't seen one.

My first-ever post on CFC and Poly was my Ailing Civilization Strategy which is in my sig and I wanted to share with everyone.

I know some posters which are "deity" level at Poly and don't even know what a SGL or GML are or irrigate in despotism every tile.

And, on the other hand, some people -few I take it- were already deity players when they posted here or at CFC the first time.

I understand that normally a NooB to the civ-forums is normally a Chieftain to Monarch player, albeit not always.

[binTravkin]

But fun is just like beauty in the eye of the beholder.

It's true until someone else thinks that it was funny.

And
fun is also just like ugliness in the eye of the beholder.