Replacing Religions

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by snoopy369
The root evil of slavery is the lack of freedom, the lack of ability to do what you want and go where you want.

We could discuss other ways that these freedoms can be withdrawn without slavery being involved, but that would threadjack the threadjack somewhat. In Civ 3 the distinction is made in terms of upkeep. The point I wished to respectfully make to Nathan is that he claimed that the game made no distiction between Slaves and Workers, but in fact the Slaves in the game do not get paid so we can assume they have a worse life somehow than the Workers.

[Krill]

That and they work 50% slower than normal workers...

[gunnergoz]

Regarding hedoinists having reduced productivity:

Originally posted by molly bloom

Oh no, I disagree- happy and satisfied workers are productive workers.
(snip)

The way I see hedonists, they are too busy having fun to report to work...

[RolandEhnström]

Originally posted by lard
I don't often post but this is a doozy.

Firaxis are SO brave to include religion because of issues like this. Whilst I respect the original poster's right to have religious belief's as much as I respect the atheist posters right to not have religious beliefs, it occurs to me that THIS IS A GAME. Not real life.

One of the things that stood out to me when I looked at Solver's preview was the screenshot on religion. The founding city for Islam was Madrid and the founding city for Buddhism was Canterbury (or something similar). This to me is VERY cool and offers a new take on history, but, again, IT'S JUST A GAME. A bit of fun.

Lard.

Superb post, my sentiments exactly.

-- Roland

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by Cort Haus

Wow. I'm amazed that Nathan, one of the all-time great Civ 3 players has overlooked the key distinction between workers and slaves in both Civ 3 and Real Life.

Ahem.

Do you pay them?

If they want to be paid like regular workers, all they have to do is work just as hard. As it is, they do enough work to earn their room and board, but not enough to earn the pay domestic workers get.

[Robert]

c'mon, I'm a christian myself and I concider myself to be very serious on it, but this is a game.
As a christian I think it's wrong to wage wars as well and to put pressure on my opponent to do certain things.

I don't agree with using nuclear weapons.
But it's a game. It's not real.

Just play it as it is, you're not spreading the islam faith over real people but just over bits and bites

[RuneHammer]

How would one go about modding the religions in the first place?

[sabrewolf]

speaking of religion

i just saw the full video when you start a new game and i am surprised we have not yet heard stuff like
"we expect that besides the theory of evolution you also teach that the earth was created in a week and the 4000BC is actually day 8"

[Locutus]

The religion info is in XML/GameInfo/CIV4ReligionInfo.xml. If you just want to rename stuff without changing anything else, all in-game text is in the folder XML/Text.

[Pigroast]

Boobism

[vmxa1]

Are you just going to change the names or are you going to change the missonary and temple names and such?

That would seem to be required to remove any feel of real religion.

[Odin]

@ this thread.

Fundie Southerner who takes his faith so seriously he's offended by playing as another religion:

[jkp1187]

This is ridiculous. Nbarclay, I am an atheist, and believe that you are wasting your time and your life with this supersititous religious stuff.

Nevertheless, your requests are quite reasonable, and it seems that a lot of small-minded people have had their own worldviews threatened by you. Personally, I modified the colors of some of the civs (and the barbarians,) simply b/c I liked England to be dark red, Japanese to be dark yellow, Barbarians to be White and Germans to be Black. Your tastes may differ.

I suggest that "Apolytonites" and "Civfanaticans" might be two additional replacement religions.

[Gully Foyle]

What's the old saying? Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

All the OP did was say that the presence of real-world religions in the game kills his immersion factor, and wants to put fake religions in. Big deal.

I, for one, definitely recommend Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.

And, if you add hedonism to the game, do you get to build hedonism-bots?

[Shogun Gunner]

Removing the religions as a partial mod seems very strange to me. Everything else would be "earth-like" except for some made up religion names. Whatever makes people happy...

Anyway, just got the game today. It's fun! Definite learning curve.... however, like any true IT person and/or gamer, I refuse to read the manual