Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Colonization Announced

[snoopy369]

Marketing... it's all marketing, Hera. Civ4 was a successful game, so they will sell Col with the words "Civ4" before it, hoping to sell more copies. I think they hope to get two groups:
1. Fans of Colonization who don't care what words are before or after it (a relatively small group, unfortunately)
2. People who play Civ4 and think it's an expansion.

It's a win-win, as long as 1.) doesn't get scared off by the "Civ4:" before it, which they probably won't (as the serious fans will research it and know better). The main thing is they probably have to put out a demo to make it clear to the real fans that it's still Col at heart (which I'd be shocked if they don't, as they have done demos of most other games).

[Heraclitus]

But what if it isn't Col at heart?


People I am a big Col fan and there is no way in hell that I will ever accept Civ4:Col as Col2 as some of you try to paint it.

[snoopy369]

Perhaps you should wait to play it (or at least a demo) before you make your decision?

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Perhaps you should wait to play it (or at least a demo) before you make your decision?

I will play it.


And then I'll gloat about being right.


I'm not saying it won't be fun, I'm just saying that it is by no stretch of the imagination Col2.

[player1]

I hardly doubt it would be just Civ4 scenario in new world.

They would not put name Colonization, if they don't want to port at least some mechanics from original Colonization to a new game.

[DrSpike]

To chip in on the naming issue, I think it's quite clear: they want to cash in on the successful Civ4 name or they would have called it Col2. Also, it will be apparent (and perhaps more so than in most games) that the engine is the same.

I find myself wondering about price points. Though having said that it will be totally irrelevant unless they finish Civ4 BtS first.

[Guynemer]

Holy ****!

Holy ****ing ****!

HOLY ****!

I just heard the news! HOLY ****!

[DarthVeda]

Yay for Colonization! One of my top 5 favorites of all time.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Verrucosus


... and as long as group 2.) does not contain a large contingent of people who love Civ4, but are not obsessed enough about it to need more than two expansions.

I believe the number of more casual players who are looking for "something new" at this point is substantial. I'm not sure why it is sound marketing to disguise the fact that the new release is "something new" (which is what I hope and suspect). Of course, if we are dealing with another great expansion to Civ4 (which isn't a bad thing in itself), the title is perfectly fine.

Verrucosus

P.S.: snoopy369, I'm afraid this thread is not the perfect place to check whether there is enough interest in a Col1 succession game. If you were serious, you might want to start new thread to see whether enough people would participate to make it fun.

This is very true, people who liked civ4 but are looking for something different may be put off by the title.

[Robert]

Civilization IV: Warlords
Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword
Civilization IV: Colonization

If it's a marketing trick to call it like that, then it's the worst marketing trick ever! Trying to sell a total new game by making it sound like it's an expansion to an 5 years old game.

[Robert]

If it's a marketing trick they'd better call it:
Grand Theft Auto IV: Colonization

[Niptium]

This news I've been waiting for like 12 years. I was about 12 when I started playing Colonization and I still play it from times to times. Can't wait to have new informations - I'm pretty sure it'll be at E3 !

[Addled Platypus]

you kids have more life to give to another game ??....

[Panag]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
you kids have more life to give to another game ??....

no we just sleep less , .....

[Slade Wilson]

lol, civfanatics main page is calling it an expack. They either dont realize its not, or they are not afraid to call em like they are....

Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Colonization is the latest game in the Civilization IV series, a standalone expansion pack that focuses on the Age of Discovery and Colonization in the New World. Though it uses Civ4's game engine, it will not require Civ4 or any of its expansion packs to be installed. In anticipation of its fall 2008 release date, Firaxis has published a Colonization page on its website that contains more information and details about the game, including these features:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=279199

The game is obviously an xpack. Every info ive read indicates that. This will be cIV with a big CoL twist....but cIV.