• Receive your Certificate of Naturalization.
JM

When an immigrant becomes a citizen of the USA, what does he get instead of his green card?
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Among the poets we are ****.
• Receive your Certificate of Naturalization.
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Don't they just give you a gun with 'Don't tread on me' engraved on the barrel?![]()

They get that well before.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"They'd rather their children all died then ever pay a penny more in taxes." Oerdin on OK.

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"We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work...After eight years of this Administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started... And an enormous debt to boot!" — Henry Morgenthau, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Treasury secretary, 1941.

So what's the problem with all these voter ID checks, then?
Graffiti in a public toilet
Do not require skill or wit
Among the **** we all are poets
Among the poets we are ****.

I (and probably everybody else in the US) need to show proof of citizenship for employment - there's a long list of acceptable documents, but the only part of the list I remember is that your passport is proof of citizenship, or else your driver's license plus your social security card is proof of citizenship. Cost. My passport costs about $120 every ten years, my driver's license costs about $60 every eight years. For some people this isn't a pittance.

In most states (such as Virginia) you can get IDs for free if you fit into certain wealth brackets, loinburger. However, yes, it actually is a pittance. 12 bucks a year for a passport? $7.50 a year for a driver's license? Come on.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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True, when you are voting 10, 11 times, the costs scale.For some people this isn't a pittance.
Scouse Git (2) LaFayette Adam Smith and Solomwi you will be missed
"They'd rather their children all died then ever pay a penny more in taxes." Oerdin on OK.
The problem comes in when:
You don't have a driver's license (for whatever reason)
You don't have a birth certificate (for whatever reason)
You don't have a social security card (for whatever reason)
Could be lost/stolen/etc....
But then suddenly proving your identity becomes a time consuming and possible costly affair. It becomes much harder if you can't trace backwards (I think my mom had to help my brother get his birth certificate when he needed one again).
Yes, for the person with a car and who holds a job it is easy.... (and if they get stolen, still easy)
note you can't legally work without a social security card
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

VERY VERY VERY few people lack identification.
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go

With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
I just know it was difficult for my brother to reacquire it.
JM
Jon Miller-
I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

Voter fraud is a largely imaginary phenomena in modern US voting. There are people who for whatever the reason don't have photo ID, and it's difficult to get ahold of because the state services suck(like in WV where the DMVs are only open one day a week and few and far between). You have to present your voter registration card anyway, and a line is struck off on the list of voters in the district the district polling place has. This alone greatly minimizes fraud, since several people can't just hit the same district again and again.
That said, I wouldn't be opposed to, say, putting your thumbprint next to your ballot(or on the voter scanner machine). This would create a pretty much ironclad defense against voter fraud and wouldn't require ID other than your voter registration card. People wouldn't go for it thought because OMFG BIG BROTHER MARK OF THE BEAST.
With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

There are districts in Philadelphia with routinely greater than 100% turnout. In Virginia quite recently a DC-based nonprofit tried to register a bunch of pets, children, dead people, and felons. It was in a copy of the Washington Post sitting in the Fed's lunch room.
I come from the land of the ice and snow
From the rust belt where industry won't go

Cite please, because even the GOP government of Pennsylvania thinks that voter fraud risk is so low that it would not be materially affected by a voter ID law.
You mean the one that the VA SBE gave a pass on anyway, since there would be a bit of a sticking point when invalid(or missing) SSNs tried to get registered to vote?In Virginia quite recently a DC-based nonprofit tried to register a bunch of pets, children, dead people, and felons. It was in a copy of the Washington Post sitting in the Fed's lunch room.
You do realize that this means the system is already working well to prevent voter fraud, right? And that there's a difference between attempted voter fraud and actual?
With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

You didn't already have a 10/22, Felch?
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
:(){ :|:& };:

With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

Weird, my brother was able to get a gun with no trouble whatsoever.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
:(){ :|:& };:

With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

Not that brother. My twin brother. And neither of them, do, really...
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
:(){ :|:& };:

With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.

I love how Lonestar asked for a cite and I provided it and he's said nothing since.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

That's because I'm waiting for you to read your own goddamn article.
I'll help you out: The GOP complaints couldn't even come up with a specific example, at and least some of the "high voting percentage turnout" districts that the city commissioners have studied have been traced right back to machine error. Given the complete cluster electronic voting has been(printed receipts? Poppycock!) this is unsurprising. And now, in August, the PA GOP has actually admitted that if voter fraud does exist on a wide scale in PA, voter ID wouldn't solve it.
With such viral bias, you're opinion is thus rendered useless. -Shrapnel12, on my "bias" against the SS.
I've never understood how God could expect his creatures to pick the one true religion by faith — it strikes me as a sloppy way to run a universe.
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