Have some money to spend - what shall I get?

[KrazyHorse]

wiggy is obviously being operated by our Minnesota lawyer friend currently

[MRT144]

Where does Sysadmin/IT ***** fit in there?

Nowhere. Are you ****ing kidding me.

[MRT144]

You clearly have not seen A Few Good Men



And Wiglaf, 4 years ago, the Marine Corps introduced a college loan reimbursement program that paid like 1/3rd of your loans by adding an additional 6 months to your service obligation. That doesn't exist anymore. The USMC generally doesn't offer the benefits like bonuses, college loan repayment, etc. that other branches do. "We don't promise you a rose garden" and all that.

Worst branch ever.

[Al B. Sure!]

I have no urge to denigrate your parents' relationship, however in general that relationship will be far less mature/deep/serious than one between two 25 or 30 year olds

My parents had a 5 year age difference and they had a terrible relationship that wound up in divorce. I have no idea when they got married but my mother was 28 and father was 33 when I was conceived.

[Al B. Sure!]

Worst branch ever.

They don't need to offer anything to entice people to join. People are beating down the door to be Marines. Most definitely the most popular branch.

That's why they can afford to institute anti-tattoo policies and what not that restrict applicants further.

[Aeson]

I have no urge to denigrate your parents' relationship, however in general that relationship will be far less mature/deep/serious than one between two 25 or 30 year olds

As you implicitly conceded there, the proper metric to judge by will not be age if you want to be accurate in your claims about a specific relationship.

[Aeson]

I have no urge to denigrate your parents' relationship, however in general that relationship will be far less mature/deep/serious than one between two 25 or 30 year olds

As you implicitly conceded there, the proper metric to judge by will not be age if you want to be accurate in your claims about a specific relationship.

[MRT144]

They don't need to offer anything. People are beating down the door to be Marines. Most definitely the most popular branch.

That's because they're a honeypot for macho idiots and America is chock full of them.

[KrazyHorse]

When are you going to grow up and admit that you need to create a realistic career path for yourself?

[gribbler]

And Wiglaf, 4 years ago, the Marine Corps introduced a college loan reimbursement program that paid like 1/3rd of your loans by adding an additional 6 months to your service obligation. That doesn't exist anymore. The USMC generally doesn't offer the benefits like bonuses, college loan repayment, etc. that other branches do. "We don't promise you a rose garden" and all that.

So people who join the Marines are especially stupid?

[KrazyHorse]

As you implicitly conceded there, the proper metric to judge by will not be age if you want to be accurate in your claims about a specific relationship.

There is no single external observable to judge by. Implicit in my statement was also the fact that they got engaged then broke up over not much at all. This is pretty normal when it comes to relationships between 30 year old hipster flakes and 22 year old women.

[KrazyHorse]

(note that this last sentence exactly describes my brother and his girlfriend, and when they break up I will not be surprised)

[Al B. Sure!]

So people who join the Marines are especially stupid?

No.

When you go to GoArmy.com, the top of the page has sections you would expect on the career page of a corporation: "Careers & Jobs" and "Benefits". In fact, the other headlines are "About the Army", "Soldier Life" and "For Parents" Maybe they don't need as many people now so they're not advertising the bonuses as prominently but a few years ago, they would have big bold letters with $ values for signing bonuses for certain fields.

Go to Marines.com, however, and you see nothing about benefits or jobs. The headlines are "History & Heritage", "Eligibility", "Becoming a Marine", etc.

Completely different culture. You join the army to get paid and for skill training. You join the Marines to be a Marine.

When are you going to grow up and admit that you need to create a realistic career path for yourself?

Well my interview to be an investment accountant for BNY Mellon went really, really well but I haven't heard back from them yet.

[MRT144]

(note that this last sentence exactly describes my brother and his girlfriend, and when they break up I will not be surprised)

Family pool going on?

[gribbler]

No.

When you go to GoArmy.com, the top of the page has sections you would expect on the career page of a corporation: "Careers & Jobs" and "Benefits". In fact, the other headlines are "About the Army", "Soldier Life" and "For Parents" Maybe they don't need as many people now so they're not advertising the bonuses as prominently but a few years ago, they would have big bold letters with $ values for signing bonuses for certain fields.

Go to Marines.com, however, and you see nothing about benefits or jobs. The headlines are "History & Heritage", "Eligibility", "Becoming a Marine", etc.

Completely different culture. You join the army to get paid and for skill training. You join the Marines to be a Marine.

So the army is a job that rewards you for the occupational hazards and the marines are a cult?

[Hauldren Collider]

I hereby nominate KrazyHorse for "most judgemental person on Apolyton."

Not that I, or 90% of the board isn't judgemental, but some of us just go above and beyond.

[MRT144]

I hereby nominate KrazyHorse for "most judgemental person on Apolyton."

Not that I, or 90% of the board isn't judgemental, but some of us just go above and beyond.

He's held the title for almost a decade.

[KrazyHorse]

I make good decisions, and I'm trying to provide value to those who do not

[MRT144]

I make good decisions, and I'm trying to provide value to those who do not

Krazyhorse is the other side of the coin. I make poor decisions and I try to provide cautionary tales to those who would follow my example.

[Hauldren Collider]

I make good decisions, and I'm trying to provide value to those who do not

There's ways of providing value to people without being incredibly condescending. No doubt it's more fun that way, which makes me wonder what % of your advice is scoring points and what % is actually trying to be helpful.

[MRT144]

There's ways of providing value to people without being incredibly condescending. No doubt it's more fun that way, which makes me wonder what % of your advice is scoring points and what % is actually trying to be helpful.

80/20

[Al B. Sure!]

So the army is a job that rewards you for the occupational hazards and the marines are a cult?

No.

However, the idea is common enough that Dr. Margaret Singer, one of the foremost experts on cults, responded to it:

How the United States Marine Corps Differs from Cults
Margaret Singer, Ph.D. and Janja Lalich, M.A.

The Marine recruit clearly knows what the organization is that he or she is joining.... There are no secret stages such as people come upon in cults. Cult recruits often attend a cult activity, are lured into "staying for a while," and soon find that they have joined the cult for life, or as one group requires, members sign up for a "billion year contract...."

The Marine recruit retains freedom of religion, politics, friends, family association, selection of spouse, and information access to television, radio, reading material, telephone, and mail.

The Marine serves a term of enlistment and departs freely. The Marine can reenlist if he or she desires but is not forced to remain.

Medical and dental care are available, encouraged, and permitted in the Marines. This is not true in the many cults that discourage and sometimes forbid medical care.

Training and education received in the Marines are usable later in life. Cults do not necessarily train a person in anything that has any value in the greater society.

In the USMC, public records are kept and are available. Cult records, if they exist, are confidential, hidden from members, and not shared.

USMC Inspector General procedures protect each Marine. Nothing protects cult members.

A military legal system is provided within the USMC; a Marine can also utilize off-base legal and law enforcement agencies and other representatives if needed. In cults, there is only the closed, internal system of justice, and no appeal, no recourse to outside support.

Families of military personnel talk and deal directly with schools. Children may attend public or private schools. In cults, children, child rearing, and education are often controlled by the whims and idiosyncracies of the cult leader.

The USMC is not a sovereign entity above the laws of the land. Cults consider themselves above the law, with their own brand of morality and justice, accountable to no one, not even their members.

A Marine gets to keep her or his pay, property owned and acquired, presents from relatives, inheritances, and so on. In many cults, members are expected to turn over to the cult all monies and worldly possessions.

Rational behavior is valued in the USMC. Cults stultify members' critical thinking abilities and capacity for rational, independent thinking; normal thought processes are stifled and broken.

In the USMC, suggestions and criticism can be made to leadership and upper echelons through advocated, proper channels. There are no suggestion boxes in cults. The cult is always right, and the members (and outsiders) are always wrong.

Marines cannot be used for medical and psychological experiments without their informed consent. Cults essentially perform psychological experiments on their members through implementing thought-reform processes without members' knowledge or consent.

Reading, education, and knowledge are encouraged and provided through such agencies as Armed Services Radio and Stars and Stripes, and through books, post libraries, and so on. If cults do any education, it is only in their own teachings. Members come to know less and less about the outside world; contact with or information about life outside the cult is sometimes openly frowned upon, if not forbidden.

In the USMC, physical fitness is encouraged for all. Cults rarely encourage fitness or good health, except perhaps for members who serve as security guards or thugs.

Adequate and properly balanced nourishment is provided and advocated in the USMC. Many cults encourage or require unhealthy and bizarre diets. Typically, because of intense work schedules, lack of funds, and other cult demands, members are not able to maintain healthy eating habits.

Authorized review by outsiders, such as the U.S. Congress, is made of the practices of the USMC. Cults are accountable to no one and are rarely investigated, unless some gross criminal activity arouses the attention of the authorities or the public.

In the USMC, the methods of instruction are military training and education, even indoctrination into the traditions of the USMC, but brainwashing, or thought reform, is not used. Cults influence members by means of a coordinated program of psychological and social influence techniques, or brainwashing.

--adapted from Cults in Our Midst: The Hidden Menace in Our Everyday Lives, Margaret Singer and Janja Lalich, Jossey-Bass, 1995. Reprinted with authors' permission.

[KrazyHorse]

Some day you will understand when people are being serious and when they are not. That day is not today.

[KrazyHorse]

80/20

This is probably about right.

[Hauldren Collider]

Some day you will understand when people are being serious and when they are not. That day is not today.

Believe me, I've never thought you were serious about trying to give people life tips.

[MRT144]

Some day you will understand when people are being serious and when they are not. That day is not today.

Must I?

I must!

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[Wiglaf]

Judgmental NOT JUDGEMENTAL.

JUDGEMENTAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTbQLMXwlXM#t=2m00s

JUDGMENTAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2YmfwRyWjg

ENGLISH EVERYONE PLEASE LEARN IT

I make good decisions, and I'm trying to provide value to those who do not

YOU AND ASHER ARE THE MOST INSECURE JUDGMENTAL, JUDGMENTAL, THAT'S J-U-D-G-M-E-N-T-A-L PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM :angry; OH HELLO APOLYTON HERE IS THE PECKING ORDER OF THE BEST JOBS, LAWYER > ACCOUNTANT > WALL STREET TRADER > ROCKET SCIENTIST > PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > A LIST MOVIE DIRECTOR > MY JOB MY BROTHER IS A HIPSTER AND WE SHARE GENES SO CLEARLY IT WAS MY EFFORT AND DETERMINATION THAT GETS ME MY WIFE AND MY MONEY :MAD: NOTHING ELSE :MAD: :ANGRY: ;NTOJEOAULIS

[gribbler]

No.

However, the idea is common enough that Dr. Margaret Singer, one of the foremost experts on cults, responded to it:

Wow. Someone actually felt the need to explain the difference between the marines and a cult? That speaks volumes.

[Al B. Sure!]

Wow. Someone actually felt the need to explain the difference between the marines and a cult? That speaks volumes.

And she clearly demonstrated that the Marines are not a cult. Expert in her field.

[Jon Miller]

Sorry Imran.

It is true that love should mean that you get into each other's interests.

As far as tech goes, especially tablets, I am hugely interested in the surface and would suggest waiting (particularly if you are interested in something more laptop-y) for the surface to come out.

JM