Reply With QuoteLebanon has a religious-based system (Confessionalism) and it's not a theocracy.
Honestly, I couldn't give a damn either way. Judaism doesn't have a strictly political aspect to it so any such observation on American politics is a byproduct of American and European history.Originally Posted by Al B. Sure!
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Lebanon has a religious-based system (Confessionalism) and it's not a theocracy.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Lebanon is less a nation than a string of ethnic communities engaged in an oft-broken cease fire. has so many ethnic conflicts it should get a big sign saying: "STABILITY IS IMPORTANT TO US. IT HAS BEEN X DAYS SINCE OUR LAST VIOLENT PISS UP."
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Which is why it has a Confessional system to mitigate religious conflict.
And let's not ignore Israel and Syria's involvement in Lebanese instability.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Israel's involvement? Yes, let's blame Israel for Hezbollah. Makes sense.
Syria is absolutely to blame, however.
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Are you really this ignorant?
Syria is absolutely to blame, however.
Lebanese Civil War, the IDF invades Lebanon. Israel funds a Maronite paramilitary group, the South Lebanon Army, as well as the Lebanese Forces and the Lebanese Front.
Israeli meddling during the Lebanese Civil War was PERVASIVE. They funded and equipped an entire side of the war and even invaded with the IDF.
That gets laughing from you? How is actually INVADING a country AND funding/equipping proxy paramilitary units not involvement?
You know it's bad when the US intervenes with troops (and not on the side of Israel!) and Ronald Reagan had to appeal to Begin to end the siege of Beirut. When the US goes against Israel's interests, Israel must be really pushing it.
And don't make me dig up Commandant Barrow's letter to the Secretary of Defense about systematic harassment of US military personnel by the IDF during the Lebanese Civil War.
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"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
A political leader saying nice things about a neighbour does not equal the entire population of Egypt wanting to live under an Iranian style theocracy you gigantic tool.
Nice things about a neighbour? You're seriously reducing this to polite banter? Cupcake, Iran and Egypt haven't had "polite" diplomatic relations, or any diplomatic relations for that matter, for decades. Not since the Iranian Revolution. This bloke is signalling an Egypt-Iran alliance (of sorts) and the creation of an Egyptian style 'democracy' modelled on Iran's, not to mention (via other spokespersons) the resumption of the Egypt-Israel proxy war. Incidentally, the IDF claims the MB has already organised terror attacks. The proxy war's begun. 40% of Egypt wants that. Another 25% wants something more approaching Saudia Arabia, complete with covering the idolatrous pyramids in wax. This is wilful blindness 101.
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"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Have I mentioned how Asher called the Muslim Brotherhood a fringe group akin to Fred Phelps Westboro church? Adorable. Bloke deserves a cupcake.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Yes, I'm sure this fits perfectly into your chickenhawk wet dream fantasy where all the arabs are nasty terrorists who live and breathe for jihad and to give their lives for Allah.
The Egyptians have just spent decades living under a rather unpleasant dictator, who lets not forget was funded by America. They've also spent more than half a century with their leaders using Israel as a scapegoat for all their wrongs. No, they aren't suddenly going to go out and hug a Jew, but they're also not looking to start their freedom by initiating a new wave of terrorism and war. They still have enormous problems to sort out, and if the conservatives right consisted of anything other than hatemongering little shits, they'd be supporting them in that endeavour and trying to make amends for decades of supporting repression. But hey, it's much easier to try and scaremonger about those horrid arabs isn't it.
Here's an idea, put down the Tom Clancy novel and get some fresh air.
Oh and because I'm a curious sort, I thought I'd check and see what news sites were running your 'Pyramids in wax' story. Let's see..
Daily Mail
Weekly World News
Christian Post
Illuminati Watcher
You're swiftly becoming a parody character now.
This is where an awesome Mark Twain quote would be, but Apolyton says it would be too many lines. :(
The ancient Egyptian relics are in no danger. They are a source of national pride for Egyptians, a pride that scarcely has a comparable in any other nation.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Pride and a huge source of national income which they are never going to give up.
I think Zevico doesn't know a single Egyptian national. He wouldn't make stupid comments like that if he did.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Cupcake, don't think project your fantasies about chicken hawks on to me. I know you hate right wingers or what have you but going on about is really telling me about you, not Egypt. Who am I kidding? This is why I call you cupcake. Keep fighting the good fight and tilting at windmills.
Incidentally, Islamists don't care about Egypt. As the good Mr Ibrahim observes:
Accordingly, while many Egyptians—Muslims and non-Muslims alike—see themselves as Egyptians, Islamists have no national identity, identifying only with Islam’s “culture,” based on the “sunna” of the prophet and Islam’s language, Arabic.* This sentiment was clearly reflected when the former*Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Akef, declared “the hell with Egypt,” indicating that the interests of his country are secondary to Islam’s.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/raymond...he-pyramids/2/
Funny that. "The hell with Egypt" doesn't sound...patriotic.
(The article also links to theY calls for pyramid demolition).
And see also:
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2012...lam-vs-history
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"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
Things to consider
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Since somebody's inevitably going to strike at this:
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VJ, what do you think of Bosnia? Or Albania? Are the Muslims out of control there?
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Don't worry, I'm sure the Amish are going to outbreed the rest of the American population into the stone age.
Hahaha, I am a right winger you poor sap, at least I was before 'right winger' became synonymous with 'crazy, bigoted extremist'.
You're a right-winger, but:Hahaha, I am a right winger you poor sap, at least I was before 'right winger' became synonymous with 'crazy, bigoted extremist'.
- You hate republicans;
- You think a recent republican win in Wisconsin will be a victory for "corporations", even though the major issue in the campaign was public sector labor laws;
- You think voter ID is a form of voter suppression even though it's practised in any number of countries worldwide and this is a pet issue of well known left wing racists like Al Sharpton;
- You think racism is excusable if it is committed by victims of racism, like Al Sharpton; in fact you think racists who are themselves victims of racism deserve to be praised and upheld as standard bearers and leaders of their communities, even though this means they'll have more avenues to broadcast their racism. Like Al Sharpton;
- You think actual intimidation of voters isn't worth worrying about it by groups like the New Black Panthers isn't worth worrying about;
- You don't think circumcision should be legal;
- You're for gay marriage;
- You appear to pretty much automatically support any measure put forward by Democrats on explicitly progressive grounds;
By any definition you're a progressive. Seriously, name a single right-wing position you have. Name one.
Last edited by Zevico; July 25, 2012 at 04:52.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
They are the very definitions of a democracy.
Free speech, the rule of law, these are the other prerequisites of a democracy and they were not and are not extant in Egypt.
If you still think this is about religion, then you are willfully blind, not "humanitarian left"
I don't. I think it's about the rise of Islamism after the fall of Arab nationalism.
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier
They are not out of control there, but they are culturally a very different kind of muslim, quite secular, very few fundamentalists, virtually none until 20 years ago, but very few today too. I am sure those muslims are not the issue in the Nordics/west but more the ones with proper fundie mentality.
However to me it seems that those fundie muslims while a fair amount in total are also a small minority, anywhere, in UK there is a fair share, but again within muslim population there they are a minority too, it is only that their voice is a lot more vocal, as they want themselves heard, like fundie christians or republicans, all the same group to me.
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"
For the past 90 years western powers have kept sizable chunks of the middle east under it's thumb, first with outright colonisation, then after WW2 by paying off or propping up selected strongmen. Mubarak, the Shah, the kings of Saufi Arabia and Jordan come to mind. Some would argue that the rise of the type of fundamentalism we're currently having problems with is directly related to this western imperialism by proxy. The strongmen can't last forever. Eventually popular government would have triumphed anyway.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
What colonization? The short-lived League of Nations mandates were not colonization.
"Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
"I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi
Nope, the Republican party was to the right of the UK conservatives but I shared a lot of their ideology. Now however, the GOP is to the right of parties we'd consider hate groups in the UK.
Putting aside your little Al Sharpton fetish, yes I agree with both those things. Considering prominent Republicans have basically admitted both those things, you'd have to be a moron not to.
You really need to get over your obsession with Al Sharpton, it makes you look like a racist *****. He's a minor figure with very little relevance.
Correct, I don't think an organization of a (at most) few thousand members who everyone (including the Black Panthers) have publically opposed is anything worth getting your little panties in a twist over.
I know right, I oppose mutilating children yet I'm also a big supporter of Israel and the Jews. It's amazing that the universe can survive such a paradox.
As is the UK Conservative party.
We don't have the political term progressive in the UK, because it's a ****ing stupid term to use for your opponents as it implies that you yourself are against progress. If you're not a progressive, what are you? A regressive?
As for me, I'm economically right wing (in UK terms) and pretty centrist/left on social issues. By American standards I'm obviously a communist.
They colonized the area with oil companies and other corporations. Oh, and they promised Palestine to a largely foreign group.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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