I want to learn about FF

**Jon Miller** · September 17, 2009, 22:05

And that other thread seems like for experts.

I just did a draft, I picked some people I know (I haven't watched for a few years), and then picked some (a lot) randoms.

My Offense:
Randy Moss
Payton Manning
Terrel Ownens
Santana Moss
Clinton Portis
Ronnie Brown

Bench:
Matt Cassel
DeSean Jackson
Anthony Gonzalez
Vsianthe Shiancoe
Beanie Wells

Kickers:
Ryan Longwell

Bench:
Jason Elam

Defense:
Tennessee
(No bench)

Now what do I do? I see that Anothony was actually injured so maybe I was stupid there.

JM

**-Jrabbit** · September 17, 2009, 22:36

What kind of league is this? How many teams?

-Anthony is out for about 2 months.
-Backup kickers are a wasted roster spot
-No starting tight end in this league??

Try upgrade your roster by dropping unneeded guys and picking up free agents who are better. Do this continuously as the season progresses. Rookies studs will become apparent, people will get injured, etc. etc.

Now you just set your lineup each week and check the results. Some guys will be in your lineup every week, others will get in based on matchups (starting RB facing a tough run defense, backup playing vs a weak defense, etc). There are plenty of websites offering free weekly rankings. Similarly, many sites have archived primers for beginners.

Do you have specific questions? We have plenty of ~~self-styled experts~~ experienced players here who will ~~tell you how to run your team~~ kindly assist you.

**Jon Miller** · September 17, 2009, 23:23

I had a starting TE, I might not have written him down (I was on a very small screen). I think there are 8 or so teams? This is Yahoo btw.

So for a question, do I kick Anthony, despite just getting him?

I actually tried to pick BR so that I could always have everyone (but my Defense) in play every game (unless people were injured).

JM

**Ben Kenobi** · September 17, 2009, 23:48

I would kick Anthony simply because he will be gone 8 weeks. Fantasy football season is usually only 13 weeks long.

AG is a young WR, who was looking for a breakout year this year, and it is unlikely he will perform well even after he gets back, assuming he's back when he is supposed to be.

You can use the slot to select someone who can help you right now.

You look pretty solid at WR, you should pick up a RB.

Dump the backup kicker. Pull up another WR and RB.

**Ming** · September 18, 2009, 09:02

Also... you haven't mentioned the scoring system your league uses. In some leauges, the points favor QB's, or RB's, or even wide receivers. It's important the you mold your team to take advantage of rules/scoring system.
It's hard to give specific advice without knowing exactly how your scoring system works

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 10:38

I am not really sure how the scoring system works myself. I Do know that while I was picking my first two picks of QB and WR, everyone else was picking RBs.

JM

**Imran Siddiqui** · September 18, 2009, 10:45

That's because RBs are a scarce commodity. You need to start two and there are only 32 teams, and those teams have one starter who gets the majority of the carries and the Top 10-12 are far better than those lower than that.

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 11:29

Moss and Manning are pretty much the cream of the crop. Portis and Ronnie Brown are not bad at all.

**Ming** · September 18, 2009, 11:37

Originally Posted by Jon Miller

I am not really sure how the scoring system works myself. I Do know that while I was picking my first two picks of QB and WR, everyone else was picking RBs.

JM

Go to the league home page (the page that shows the standings) and look on the main menu bar and roll over the League button/tab. Select the bottom option "scoring and settings". This will show you the point system and the settings of your league.

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 11:47

Offense League Value Yahoo! Default Value
Passing Yards 25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns 4
Interceptions -1
Rushing Yards 10 yards per point
Rushing Touchdowns 6
Reception Yards 10 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns 6
Return Touchdowns 6
2-Point Conversions 2
Fumbles Lost -2
Offensive Fumble Return TD 6
Kickers League Value Yahoo! Default Value
Field Goals 0-19 Yards 3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards 3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards 3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards 4
Field Goals 50+ Yards 5
Point After Attempt Made 1
Defense/Special Teams League Value Yahoo! Default Value
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble Recovery 2
Touchdown 6
Safety 2
Block Kick 2
Points Allowed 0 points 10
Points Allowed 1-6 points 7
Points Allowed 7-13 points 4
Points Allowed 14-20 points 1
Points Allowed 21-27 points 0
Points Allowed 28-34 points -1
Points Allowed 35+ points -4

Everyone has been droping anthony gonzalez and elam. I should probably do the same.

Tony Gonzalez is my starting TE.

JM

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 12:25

You may also want to swap Cassell with someone else as a backup QB, or take another player altogether as Manning has been for the most part indestructable.

**Ming** · September 18, 2009, 12:33

From the looks of your settings, it is set up for RB's, and would explain why everybody was going after RB's.

Keep an eye out during Sunday and see if any RB's get injured, and then jump on line quickly and see if their backup is available. It's always nice when you can "vulture" a RB like that.

**ColdWizard** · September 18, 2009, 13:03

Also if you can find a starter that loses his goalline role, that can be helpful.

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 13:33

My plan for Cassel was just for the time when Manning wasn't playing. Is he a bad QB? Why are you suggesting changing him for another QB?

I don't know what you mean by starter that loses his goalline role.

Can someone give me a list of RBs to look for. Maybe a list of WR too. I will be dropping the two named people (Kicker + WR) and picking up two more.

I don't really know names/etc of anyone who started being good after 2004 or so.

JM

**Ming** · September 18, 2009, 13:39

As Jr asked earlier, how many teams on in the league. If it's a large league (12 or 14 teams) most of the good players are probably already on some bodies team as back ups. If it's an 8 or 10 team league, there are probably tons of good players on the waiver wire. It's hard to make any suggestions considering I would probably give you a list of people already taken

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 13:42

8ish teams, I bet for everything other than RB there are tons of good players available.

his is Yahoo, there was some sort of ranking in the draft, for the most part people just took the highest people to draft (I didn't in general, maybe I wasn't smart).

JM

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 14:52

My plan for Cassel was just for the time when Manning wasn't playing. Is he a bad QB? Why are you suggesting changing him for another QB?

He's injured. I don't see much use in keeping injured backups. Injured starters, sure.

I don't know what you mean by starter that loses his goalline role.

It's all about the TDs, baby. I have a goaline RB, who gets the TDs and earns me enough points to be useful.

Can someone give me a list of RBs to look for. Maybe a list of WR too. I will be dropping the two named people (Kicker + WR) and picking up two more.

It would be easier for you to post a list of who's available.

**duke o' york** · September 18, 2009, 15:24

FF: duke picks his team, does ok. Duke relies on BAPAYs, finishes bottom by a long way.

(this is not a dig at the kind folks who helped me when I had no connection. Cheers guys)

**Solomwi** · September 18, 2009, 15:31

With 8 teams, you may be able to get some pretty sporty real-life backup RBs who still figure regularly into the offensive plans. Darren Sproles is likely gone, if he wasn't drafted, due to Tomlinson's injury, but if he's out there grab him. Leon Washington is another one in that mold. Also, look to see who others are dropping. Some owners will panic after a bad game, especially the first week, and get rid of a guy who can serve you well the rest of the way. Happened in my league with DeAngelo Williams last year.

Looking at your roster, I might clear out my entire bench except Wells and Jackson, and replace them with RBs who may pan out. It's a numbers game there, but it can hit really big (see Matt Forte last year and Adrian Peterson his rookie year, or Larry Johnson the year he took over for Priest Holmes). What you want to look for is a, generally young, talented backup on a productive offense where the starter is aging (30+) or injury-prone. You'll need a QB for Manning's bye in Week 6, but you can probably pick up a guy to fill in when that arrives. I don't really like DeSean Jackson with McNabb out, but he's good enough for spot duty when your other WRs have bye weeks. Note that both Mosses are off in Week 8, so you'll need to make a move then to fill out your roster (unless the third WR spot is actually a flex position, where you can start either a WR or RB). Aside from those two considerations, your bench needs to be a RB lotto board until you get hit by an injury to a starter.

**-Jrabbit** · September 18, 2009, 15:37

Nothing wrong with Cassel as a one-week fill-in. He's on a bad team, but they will throw a lot, which means more points. He's dinged up now, but will be back at full strength in another week.

If someone like Hasselbeck or Flacco is still sitting there, it would likely be an upgrade. This is not critical until you get to Peyton's bye week.

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 15:42

Can't argue in favour of Sproles, based on those stats listed. He's good at all purpose yards, terrible at straight rushing yards and TDs. He might get you one or two TDs in a year based on the return, but that's hit and miss.

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 15:47

Available:
Derrick Ward
Jonathan Stewart
Marshawn Lynch
LenDale White
Larry Johnson
Leon Washington
Ricky Williams

I got Darren Sproles.

Available:
Derrick Mason
Michael Crabtree
Devin Hester
Earl Bennett
Justin Gage

I am thinking that I will get at least one more RB and one more WR.

JM

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 15:48

QBs:
Matt Hasselbeck
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco
Brett Favre
Trent Edwards

JM

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 15:50

Do changes take a couple of days to happen?

JM

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 15:52

Jon, your league only gives you points based on yardage and TDs.

QBs, go for Hasselbeck.

RBs, Leon Washington's probably your best bet, but scoop up as many as you can get. Derrick Ward is way better for you than Sproles.

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 15:58

Leaving Sproles right now?

Picking up Washington for Elam.

I think this all happens on the 20th.

Still need a new WR and still thinking about the QB change.

JM

**Ben Kenobi** · September 18, 2009, 16:02

Mason's your best bet. Flacco is throwing well.

**Solomwi** · September 18, 2009, 16:05

Originally Posted by Ben Kenobi

Can't argue in favour of Sproles, based on those stats listed. He's good at all purpose yards, terrible at straight rushing yards and TDs. He might get you one or two TDs in a year based on the return, but that's hit and miss.

It's not the best format for Sproles, but it's not bad. Remember that receiving yards count the same as straight rushing yards, so what actually matters is yards from scrimmage and TDs. Rivers leaned on him fairly heavily in the passing game Monday, and even with Tomlinson healthy, Sproles gets touches. With LT dinged, he can be expected to get more over the next few weeks. And while touchdowns are somewhat fluky, he had six from scrimmage last year. That's serviceable for what he is: a free agent pickup for depth. Of course, there's also a decent possibility of him having one game somewhere during the year where he explodes. If that happens, he becomes immediate trade bait.

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 16:12

So how do I choose which RB to put in?

Do I need to pick up Ward to (and drop who?)?

JM

**Jon Miller** · September 18, 2009, 16:14

Santana Moss, DeSean Jackson, or someone else to start? I did sort of know about Santana Moss because of listening to radio when driving up to DC lately.

JM