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  • #16
    I've heard we have a few more weeks to wait yet.
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    • #17
      Broken? I think thats a poor choice of words.

      PD bug, yes a bug to be fixed.
      Direct-X error, yes a bug too, but there are many many games you cannot even ALT-TAB out of at all, and no one seems to care about it.

      Other than that, I think the game plays just fine.

      I didnt like it at first, and put it on the shelf. Its now two months since I bought it and I cant get enough of it. I love this game. So much better than Civ3 CTP2.

      I never did like Civ1 and 2 or SMAC.

      My only problem with beta testers is that they all must have been really bad players...

      But thats ok cause we get an epic multiplayer, without, I might add, having to pay another 30 bucks for it like Civ3 (that was just disgusting they pulled that crap and I'll never buy another of their product).

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      • #18
        I'm beginning to think many new settlers are shills ...

        Originally posted by Yushal Al Dai
        Broken? I think thats a poor choice of words.

        PD bug, yes a bug to be fixed.
        Direct-X error, yes a bug too, but there are many many games you cannot even ALT-TAB out of at all, and no one seems to care about it.
        I thought a bug was how software is broken.

        Other than that, I think the game plays just fine.
        So you like the AI, the diplomacy, the entirely ****ed up way in which the ship construction window works ...

        I didnt like it at first, and put it on the shelf. Its now two months since I bought it and I cant get enough of it. I love this game. So much better than Civ3 CTP2.

        I never did like Civ1 and 2 or SMAC.
        Didn't like Civ2!? Told you this guy was a shill.

        But thats ok cause we get an epic multiplayer, without, I might add, having to pay another 30 bucks for it like Civ3 (that was just disgusting they pulled that crap and I'll never buy another of their product).
        Only shills say things like "epic multiplayer". Did you used to go under the name 'Jonah Falcon'? Oh, and Civ3 ruled, shill.
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        • #19
          The Official Infogrames/Quicksilver Response!


          "Over the last several weeks we have heard from the war criminals who purport the illusion that our software has not been tested. To them I say, I now inform you that you are too far from reality! I tell you that we spared no expense to hire the best minds from the LA general hospital coma ward. The infidels who oppose us will drink poison and die before the free employees of our glorious company."
          Last edited by Kahn; May 1, 2003, 02:40.
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          • #20
            Kahn... That has to be without a doubt the funniest posting i have seen on Apolyton!!! Even your choice of phases was perfect


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            • #21
              Originally posted by The Templar
              I thought a bug was how software is broken.
              The phrase "bug" originated back in the ENIAC days and was used to indicate a hardware problem. (A bug literally got stuck in the machine and shorted something).
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Vince278


                The phrase "bug" originated back in the ENIAC days and was used to indicate a hardware problem. (A bug literally got stuck in the machine and shorted something).
                Since they programs where hardcode into the machine also by rewireing the board it can also mean programming problem.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Vince278


                  The phrase "bug" originated back in the ENIAC days and was used to indicate a hardware problem. (A bug literally got stuck in the machine and shorted something).
                  I guess QS can always roll back the clock to this definition and say "see, no bugs! This game is (definitionally) bug free."

                  Of course I've read around here that the above is essentially the attitude of tech support anyway.
                  - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                  - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                  - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                  • #24
                    Firaxis took that position with SMAC, and it's actually pretty common in the industry to assume that a claimed "bug" is nothing more than a user problem.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                      Firaxis took that position with SMAC, and it's actually pretty common in the industry to assume that a claimed "bug" is nothing more than a user problem.
                      Or a "feature"!
                      - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                      - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                      - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                      • #26
                        There are time that people who cry bug are wrong. I remember some people who cry that the Comodor C64 have
                        than save and replace bug it actical work the way it was meant to work it save the file under than temp name before
                        deleteing the old file which you want to replace and then it rename the temp file to the one you replace and delete..
                        Some uncomputer writer assume it delete the old file first and then save the file you want to 5 1/4 inch disk.
                        By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by CharlesBHoff
                          Since they programs where hardcode into the machine also by rewireing the board it can also mean programming problem.
                          I believe a hardcoding error is still a hardware problem, not software. (but it can be considered a wetware problem if you take the programmer into account )

                          Now that I think about it I remember having a small computer in a box back in the early 70's were you hardcoded by plugging wires into a pegboard console. It was extremely frustrating to use but one learned alot about programming the hard way.

                          I also hated the PCs where you had to load cassette tapes of software into RAM before you could do anything.
                          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                          2004 Presidential Candidate
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Vince278


                            I believe a hardcoding error is still a hardware problem, not software. (but it can be considered a wetware problem if you take the programmer into account )

                            Now that I think about it I remember having a small computer in a box back in the early 70's were you hardcoded by plugging wires into a pegboard console. It was extremely frustrating to use but one learned alot about programming the hard way.

                            I also hated the PCs where you had to load cassette tapes of software into RAM before you could do anything.
                            The first computer have no memony so you have to change the entire wireing of the vaccun tude computer after you wrote down whatever value it has in one storage place. The
                            first home computer have to have cassette tapes as than disk drive cost than alots of money the cheapest one was between 1000 to 2000 dollars.
                            By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                            • #29
                              It is utterly amazing how much we have progressed in such a short amount of time. I think my watch is better than most home (and some other) computers up to the mid-late 70's.
                              "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                              "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                              2004 Presidential Candidate
                              2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                              • #30
                                Kahn, you rule Period.

                                Now try posting that on IGMoo, that is, the ATARI forum....

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