MoO1 trying to run in XP, help !?

[boolybooly]

I am trying to get MoO1 to run in XP sp1.

I found Jon Sullivans page

http://www.jonsullivan.com/misc/moo_xp.htm

but when I follow these instructions (which are ambiguous re XMS or EMS as properties has both though I tried both) I get a message at the end of installation to emulate soundblaster saying that I have no EMS driver installed. When I run the tweaked Orion.exe shortcut it opens a dos box and it promptly quits.

I tried putting a config.nt in there with
"EMM=RAM"
but it didnt work.

I need guidance please

I nicked a copy of EMM386 out of a windows ME instal but am not sure where or how to run it or if it will help.

[vmxa1]

I am using auto for all of the memory selections on the properties for the installer and the Orion.exe.
I have not needed to use a modified Config.nt or Autoexec.nt.

I would first install and try with no sound. Then if it works you can start playing with the audio settings. I have only gotten it to work use the original SB, no matter what card or motherboard I had.

[boolybooly]

it just wont run like that for me, maybe its my 1024 Mb RAM messing it up again, or perhaps my AMD Barton.

it wont run past game setup even using DOSbox 6.

[vmxa1]

Well I have 1GB of PC3200 by Munchkin an dit is fine on 3GH Pent.
I haf an AMD 2100+ with a 1GB and it worked. Both XP. I have had 15-20 OC and they all ran it from Os/2 to XP, only one I never had was Win2000.

So what happens? Does the install run or not? If it run can you do the configure?

If you get that far, you should b golden. If it si Orion that fails, what is the msg?
If you do not see any msg, check the close on exit to be off.

[vmxa1]

I should ask if this is a diskette or Cd version and is it a patched on the CD to 1.3 or not?
If it was a DL, it may have something missing. I have seen some isue with the one from the web.
If it is unpatched or not 1.3, copy the whole cd and then apply the patch. Then install.

[Garth Vader]

I haven't been able to get mine to work either, when I run install it says I don't have a ems driver.

[vmxa1]

My intall.exe is 115kb dated 10/28/1994. XP PRO SP1 with all latest criticl updates, but I doubt that matters as I use XP PRO before the service pack was out and it worked.

[vmxa1]

Garth did your version come from a CD with 1.3 applied?
If not, I can zip my MPS directory, it is 11-12MB unzipped.
You can try it if you have DSL or cable.

[boolybooly]

I have the game from 2 sources, one is moo_all from J Sullivan, which runs ok on a p3 in WinME and is v1.3.

the other is a dl, self installer, from gamebird.dk also 1.3

edit/ ahem! this morning they will both run in dosbox, as I set Win95 emulation on the dosbox exe. but in dosbox it will not load saved games at the moment, so it is not ideal.

in my version of XP pro sp1 both versions say that

"you must have at least 1024k of expanded memory" in the dos window after running orion.exe (if I uncheck the close window option in the shortcut otherwise it just blinks on then off)

also the instal exe reports that I have no EMS driver after soundcard setup.

I have tried running in Win95 emulation mode, with 1024 EMS specified in the shortcut and it makes no difference. in fact I have tried several tens of permutations of the memory settings.

maybe I should try a different version, vmxa1 your offer of a zip sounds good, if its not too much trouble, but I bet you it will do the same !

[Garth Vader]

My Moo comes from disks then copied from HD to HD over 3-4 computers.

I could try your zip as I do have cable.

[boolybooly]

I am beginning to wonder if it is a bios level problem, this is an nForce2 mobo running DDR in dual channel mode and I wonder if it is bypassing elements of RAM control which still apply to my p3 rig as it has SDRAM. I will experiment with single channel mode.

I have tried running MoO from a WinME boot disk DOS prompt to its directory and I still get the "1024 expanded" error message.

I wonder what chipset Garth's rig uses ?

[vmxa1]

I have dual channel memory on my system. It is a hyperthreading Pent 3.066GH with PC3200 by Munchkin (1GB).

Anyway send me an email and I will send it. -vmxa+sbcglobal.net-

drop the dashes and replace the + with @. Hope it works. I hate to see people not be able to play Moo. I keep a system with Win98SE to run any games that XP is not happy with. It is funny that my previous XP system ran every game I had.
My current will not run Might and Magic VI/VII/VIII. It gets some problems with the cursor in Moo2 and Ascendancy.
I see no difference in the OS, so it must be hardware.

[Garth Vader]

I'll send an email when I get home from work.

I don't remember all my specs off hand.

[boolybooly]

Thanks vmxa1, I unzipped and placed MPS\Orion in C: then (presuming that is all I have to do) as a test I ran the orion.exe and the shortcut without any further tweaks and still get exactly the same message that I need 1024 of EMS.

So that means my system is not providing EMS support properly. It was a fresh instal on a blank C: Any ideas ?

[vmxa1]

Check your startup and unselect all apps not required. YOu can add then back later and they can be started manually.
Check the Win.ini and System.ini to see that all are checked.
Use MSCONFIG to do that. Look at the services to make sure you have not turned off any that are needed.

Set the desktop resolution to 16 bit.