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  • #31
    The long-awaited OpenGL 3.0 was announced yesterday...and it's an utter joke. All of the big changes they planned have been scrapped.

    OpenGL fanboys everywhere are in mourning:


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    • #32
      It's also a year late, isn't it?
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      • #33
        Yes. They scrapped what was to be released last year and just did very minor tweaks, and still called it 3.0.

        Typical of committee warfare, the traditional CAD members of OpenGL fought with the gaming members of OpenGL, and the CAD members won.

        Direct3D is increasingly the obvious choice for game development.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • #34
          Can you even use OpenGL for console game development?

          But yeah the strength of Open development is also often it's biggest achilles' heel, you take the rough with the smooth.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by El_Cid
            Can you even use OpenGL for console game development?
            Both the Wii and PS3 use non-standard, heavily customized OpenGL.

            Though according to PS3 devs on Beyond3D, the OpenGL-like version on the PS3 is slow as hell and inconsistent, so they use custom PS3 libraries and SDKs written by Sony and its second parties.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #36
              Re: Console Wars V

              Originally posted by Asher
              Previous: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...postid=5369202

              There's some outstanding Xbox Live Arcade games that got posted recently...

              Braid: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...ag=multimodule;picks;title;1

              Gamespot gave it 9.5/10 and EuroGamer a 10/10. It's simultaneously innovative and retro, some call it a tribute to the classic Super Mario Brothers.

              Other is the self-explanatory Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/895/895096p1.html
              To bring the discussion back to something interesting: Bionic Commando Rearmed is also getting some very good early reviews.

              It almost looks as though MS are reversing their shovelware XBLA strategy. Interesting to see whether it is temporary or permanent.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Asher

                Both the Wii and PS3 use non-standard, heavily customized OpenGL.

                Though according to PS3 devs on Beyond3D, the OpenGL-like version on the PS3 is slow as hell and inconsistent, so they use custom PS3 libraries and SDKs written by Sony and its second parties.
                Thanks for the info
                I did wonder what devs used on these platforms as it certainly wasn't going to be DirectX!(and console dev isn't in my radar so to speak). And by the same token I also was pretty sure Xbox would use it exclusively.

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                • #38
                  Yes, the name Xbox is actually derived from its codename, DirectX Box.

                  The version on the PS3 of OpenGL is kind of limited, its geared more for quick indy-type games (PSN games) than AAA/studio titles. It's a version of OpenGL ES: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL_ES
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                  • #39
                    wow this place is so dead, no one discusses the new NPD numbers, though I suppose it could be cause theres nothing much new.


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                    HW
                    DS 608k
                    Wii 555k
                    Playstation 3 225k
                    PSP 222k
                    Xbox 360 205k
                    Playstation 2 155k

                    Top 10 SW
                    360 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 397.6K
                    WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA MAY 2008 369.6K
                    NDS GUITAR HERO: ON TOUR ACTIVISION JUNE 2008 309.7K
                    WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 284K
                    PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 242.5K
                    360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 218.9K
                    WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA APRIL 2008 174.5K
                    WII ROCK BAND SPECIAL ED BUNDLE MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS JUNE 2008 165.8K
                    PS3 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 155.8K
                    360 SID MEIER'S CIVILIZATION REVOLUTION TAKE 2 INT. CORP. JULY 2008 147.6K
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                    • #40
                      Fun for LOTM: How many third party Wii titles in the top? How many 360?
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                      • #41
                        So who else thinks Batman: Arkham Asylum looks AMAZING? Some links here and here. Lots of screenshots in the second link.

                        Hopefully this'll be the Batman game we've been waiting for, what I've seen so far certainly has got my mouth watering.

                        I also tried out the CivRev demo. Nicely adapted to a console, but I don't think I'm going to buy it until it drops to 20-30 bucks, maybe see if any DLC comes out to expand on it.

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                        • #42
                          No reason at all to get CivRev for 360; it just doesn't have very much depth. On the DS, however, it's perfect.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                            No reason at all to get CivRev for 360; it just doesn't have very much depth. On the DS, however, it's perfect.
                            Hm, might have to check the DS version out, then.

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                            • #44
                              (They're the same game, rules-wise, it's just I don't see why you'd sit down to play shallow civ on the 360 if you can sit down and play deep civ on your computer.)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Asher
                                Fun for LOTM: How many third party Wii titles in the top? How many 360?
                                Fun for Asher: by how much did the Wii win the hardware stakes this month? And overall?

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