Why is EVE good?

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by DrSpike
Not really - though I don't particularly want to play it I respect the game for offering something different. Read my first post.

I just don't see how the fact the gameplay some choose is so uninvolving that you may as well watch TV at the same time can be considered a plus point. To claim this is because Eve is about competition not fun is even more absurd - competitive games require actual attention.

I pwn j00 all at watching TV!

During many parts you are glued to your seat.

JM

[Jon Miller]

And honestly, I think the only MMOs where I couldn't watch TV were CoH and GW.

JM

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by conmcb25
Nice deflection Spikey!

You have been going on and on about the TV things which is what I responded too...

You get points for trying though

It wasn't me that brought up TV.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns


You have it the wrong way around. People choose that gameplay because they can do something else at the same time. If you can get more isk by mining with minimal attention to the game, I don't see how that is a bad thing. In other games, if you don't have time to play, you don't get ahead. Again, that isn't something to brag about.

Skanky read the post I quoted and was responding to. I am not getting it the wrong way around - I am merely repeating what an Eve player said! It's very clear:

Originally posted by Jon Miller

grinding almost always can be boring, no matter what the game.

Why not have something interesting to do.

In no sane world can you equate this to either of the points you and Con are making. It's quite clearly saying that certain activities are boring, therefore you may as well have something else to do, NOT that sometimes you have other RL commitments so low maintenance gameplay is welcome.

As I said above, no problem with the latter point, and if indeed there is some limited strategy behind afking then all the better.

[John-SJ]

For me, EVE is the best MMO out there right now. I much prefer sandbox/skill based games over guided/level based ones, in fact, I can honestly say I have played enough level based MMO games to last a lifetime. And EVE, IMO, is the most open, freeform sandbax to date.

I like EVE because I can do virtually anything. In EVE, it is not the game mechanics that limit possibilities nearly as much as it is the imagination of the player.

EVE is a deep, thought provoking game with layer upon layer of strategy. EVE is a dangerous world where you will either sink or swim. EVE is (IMO) the best there is!

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by DrSpike


It wasn't me that brought up TV.

But you seem to dwell upon it

[Jon Miller]

BTW

Just so everyone knows, I am Taizu Lilith in game, a member of EM and I like to chat. So open up a channel sometime.

JM

[DrSpike]

But make sure you message him in between episodes of Lost.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by DrSpike
In no sane world can you equate this to either of the points you and Con are making. It's quite clearly saying that certain activities are boring, therefore you may as well have something else to do, NOT that sometimes you have other RL commitments so low maintenance gameplay is welcome.

That would be true, were you required to do all aspects of the game at some point in time. It isn't. For example, mining is boring, therefore I don't mine. Of course, it is still available to me to do if I had something else to do at the same time. So what if other aspects can be boring at times too? The fact remains that you can not do certain activities in Eve while watching TV or such, at least not if you want to keep a ship around your pod. So I stand by my statement. People choose that gameplay because they can do something else at the same time.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by DrSpike
But make sure you message him in between episodes of Lost.

I don't watch (Any) TV.

JM

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
The fact remains that you can not do certain activities in Eve while watching TV or such, at least not if you want to keep a ship around your pod. So I stand by my statement. People choose that gameplay because they can do something else at the same time.

I would go as far to say there are actually a very limited amount of things you can do in game afk without getting your ship destroyed or podded...............

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns

That would be true, were you required to do all aspects of the game at some point in time. It isn't. For example, mining is boring, therefore I don't mine. Of course, it is still available to me to do if I had something else to do at the same time. So what if other aspects can be boring at times too? The fact remains that you can not do certain activities in Eve while watching TV or such, at least not if you want to keep a ship around your pod. So I stand by my statement. People choose that gameplay because they can do something else at the same time.

This may or may not be correct but (again!) is a different point to the one Jon made and I was responding to.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


I don't watch (Any) TV.

JM

So you stare at a blank screen when playing Eve?

[Jon Miller]

No, I post on apolyton or chat when I do couriers or easy missions (two fo the things that don't require a ton of attention).

My point is that grind is always boring, why not be able to do something else during grind?

PvP or other more intense stuff requires all your attention.

JM

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
No, I post on apolyton when I do couriers or easy missions.

My point is that grind is always boring, why not be able to do something else during grind?

Good choice.