Oblivion-The best game?

[Nubclear]

Morrowind

Oblivion

[El_Cid]

Oblivion best TES so far?

Quillian = better
Ball Lightning = better
Jon Miller = better
SirOsis = better
bipolarbear = better

El_Cid = worse
AmericanCitizen = worse
Dis = worse
Kinjiru = worse
Kc7mxo = worse?
Tocca42 = worse
Skanky Burns = worse
Apocalypse = worse
_BuRjaCi_ = worse
Comrade Tassadar = worse

Not played other TES - but dissapointed

Kassiopeia
Sir Ralph

Not played other TES - but happy

Nikolai

[Nikolai]

Count me in for not played other TES - and liking what I see.

[bipolarbear]

Originally posted by Ball Lightning

The problem with HL2 is that it is limited, i like games which there are invinite possiblyties, or close to, like: Civ, Oblivion, Sims2

Yeah, but I could play COD2 multi all day, I haven't tried HL2's "Deathmatch" yet but if the game is any indication, it should be fun to say the least.

[El_Cid]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Count me in for not played other TES - and liking what I see.

Do you mean you have been playing Oblivion and like it? Or have just seen the sceenshots and gone yummy!?

If the former i did have a category for yourself, but took it out as no-one came foreward for it - you could be the first

[Nikolai]

I have the game, and like it.

[El_Cid]

I've added you

[Spaced Cowboy]

I don't know where I am. I played 100 hours so I feel like I got my money's worth out of what I spent. I really felt like some things were broken and that the game could have been better in some areas.

[El_Cid]

well you sound kind of disapointed?

Poor analogy alert!:

I could have given you a new spreadsheet to spend 100+ hours on, and that might have been fine if i'd given you a spreadsheet with similar features before, and this new one added more things to make it all more interesting to use and play around with?

Now if i'd actualy taken out lots of those features would you be happier with the new spreadsheet or the old one?

[Jon Miller]

you are really fanatical El_Cid

if you weren't getting new enjoyment out of the game, compared to the old one, then isn't it better than the old one?

if you quit playing the old one, and played the new one for a long time, isn't it better even if not perfect?

you are basically trying to get everyone who thinks it wasn't perfect (and most people don't think it was perfect..) to say it was weaker

one thing is that the first time you see something, the concept is new and fresh, you become less interested in playing it as time goes on

if Oblivion did not add anything at all, I would load it up and quit it, since I already played Morrowind as much as I would like to

Since it did add something, I played for a while

Same is true of lots of people, including some that you convinced to say it is weaker, I think

JM

[Nostromo]

I played Morrowind for a while. Its a good game, but I was never gaga about it. I feel there were a number of important problems with the gameplay. In fact, I never finished the game.

I didn't play Oblivion, but I was under the impression, based on the previews and reviews I read, that Bethesda fixed some of the problems that plagued its predecessor. So it seemed like a better game, overall. But maybe they created new problems in the process...

One thing I prefered in Morrowind was the artwork (I'm not talking about the graphics, but the artwork). Overall, it had more personality than Oblivion. Oblivion looks like another generic tolkienish game. And it was intentional: they wanted to ride the wave of the success of the Lord of the ring movies.

[Spaced Cowboy]

I was infatuated for 80 hours, but the last 20 or so was just to say I finished the game.

The invisibility spell really took away the challenge at the end.

[El_Cid]

@ Jon Miller,

I agree i 'over-egg' my opinion of Oblivion, and i agree that looking back on my posts i do seem quite fanatical in my dislike of the game.
I also however accept that peole such as your good self do actualy prefer the game over the previous TES, and i've not tried to persude you otherwise(although i have enjoyed your input and trying to help me see things i might have missed).

My polarised attitude is in part born of desperation - here was a series of games that i've enjoyed very much(for all the flaws in the game design and unfinished games they have mostly been) over the years. To that tradition i was just very aware Oblivion was like a slap in the face - it still feels like a very different game to me, not TES like, and that is why i'm so out spoken about it.

Also i feel cheated by this game - i didnt just spend the £30 on the game, i built a whole new PC to be able to play it(£700). The disapointment after playing was the largest i'd ever felt over a computer game. I just know it should have been so much more than it was, and from my point of view whats worse is its actualy so much less than the previous titles, atleast in the tradtion of what TES has always aimed to be(and missed nailing often).

I feel my 'extreme' view could be a valid counter weight to the 'extreme' view that Bethesda put out on their website about Oblivion, and i know the value of checking the net to get at the possible real story of a game, rather than just belive the marketing hype. In that light i feel its important that the many TES fans that feel Oblivion is the wrong direction to go in voice that opinion.

I'm not happy with Oblivion, as a TES it feels light-weight and cut down, with some fancy features(graphics+voice acting) that frankly do nothing to better TES as a series of deep interesting crpg games.
Worse this is probably the future of the series as it gets even more liniar, narrow and action orientated. So i've given up on Bethesda being able to make a crpg that i know i will like to play. No more TES for me thanks.

Still TES is just a game right? like any other no more no less? Not that important, just light entertainment? Pick-up play, finish, "I've won", put down and forget about? Next.



@nostromo,

I never finished Morrowind either - but that doesnt matter its still a game where finishing it isnt important(a major difference from Oblivion where that is pretty much all there is to do). In fact with my new modded build of Morrowind i've doubled the size of the origonal game(including its expansions) - so IF i did want to finish everything, i'd still be at it for many years to come(another vast contrast compared to Oblivion).
And yes the game balance was out of whack - still i develpoed a role-playing discipline for playing the game, so that stopped my characters from using most of the exploits of the loose design.

@Spaced Cowboy,

How long did you play and get into Morrowind do you think?(if you did play it that is).
I could only stomache around 60-70hrs in Oblivion, than i just had to quit - it was too disapointing for me because i had been expecting a real succesor to Morrowind....and a TES as it called itself that on the box

[Dis]

yeah but it only works if they listen to our complaints and strive to make a better game next time. I don't know if Oblivion reads Apolyton other games forum. .

If enough people make noise, maybe they will make a better game next time.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Did not play morrow wind, but I have borred a copy from a friend (well actually we traded a few games), but never have played it....not enough time and not enough buzz for now.