Oblivion-The best game?

[Skanky Burns]

I must confess I still haven't gotten past the menu system to actually get into the game. I don't think any of my characters have hit level 2 yet...

[Unspeakable Horror]

There are many gui mods on TESSource, Major Jim~something is a good one and the one I´m using.

[Skanky Burns]

Likewise, but there isn't anything (as of yet) that converts it to a Morrowind-style menu such that you can see everything on one screen rather than having 25 different screens.

[Quillan]

No, I don't think there is one that puts the magic, inventory, skill and map interfaces all on the screen at once. However, I highly recommend the BTmod, which at least scales things to a reasonable PC level GUI.

[El_Cid]

Originally posted by Quillan
Well, Cid, I suppose you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree. Like you, I've played the previous games, and I really like Oblivion. It's not perfect by a long shot (the interface really is inexcusable), but I've been able to use mods to make it a lot better. Could it have been (a lot) better? Absolutely. Did they concentrate on graphics over substance? It sure looks that way. However, I had loads of fun playing it, probably got 200+ hours out of it, so I'm not upset at all.

thats cool for you. I guess with Ball lightnings vote that makes it 2 all in the Oblivion vs older TES vote

Quillian = better
Ball Lightning = better

El_Cid = worse
Sir Ralph = worse

Others = no clear statement yet?

[Skanky Burns]

What were my statements, chopped liver?

[Dis]

worse than that.

[Skanky Burns]

[AmericanCitizen]

I bought Oblivion and played it for a fair length of time, about 2-3 weeks. After that, though, it just began to feel....empty? The game lacks the "personality" that Morrowind had, I think. In Morrowind, I felt like I was truely somewhere else, but in Oblivion it seems fictional and trivial.
It isn't a bad game, but it's one of those "seasonal" games: I play it for a week or two, wait a month or two, repeat...Not like games like Civ, where I play constantly.

[El_Cid]

I know what you mean AmericanCitizen - the initial wow factor because of the graphics wore off much more quickly for me. I have a sneaky suspicion that that aspect is key to how long someone can actualy enjoy the game. Oblivion does feel very empty, which is kind of odd as it does have lots of dungeons to explore, possibly because once you've done one they are pretty much of a likeness - with no real reward at the end of it?

For me graphics are pretty much last on my list of what makes a good game so that might explain why it was less than ordinary for me? Others seem to enjoy it longer but maybe they like the detail of the graphics and the way they depict the world - its certainly fun luring a goblin into its own trap and watching bodies fly around with your hits from combat.

Still those reasons are the last type of reasons i want to play an rpg, imho those reasons are for fps gaming.
In an rpg I want depth and to feel part of a story, prefrebly of my own making, and have lots of interesting choices. Oblivion has none of this as far as i can tell. The story is incredibly liniar and is all about the action at the Oblivion gates. The side quests are ok and some are well written, but often seem to have hardly any choices in them, often none with only one possible dialogue choice.

hmm maybe i should add you to the No list

Oblivion best TES so far?

Quillian = better
Ball Lightning = better

El_Cid = worse
Sir Ralph = worse
AmericanCitizen = worse

I remember the huge amount of threads we had on Morrowind, they went on for years; i think that is inditement enough of Oblivions failure as a TES.
But i'll keep adding people who declare their loyalty to either camp and will be happy to eat humble pie if so needed

[Jon Miller]

I think that there is a lot more RPG in Oblivion and that it is the better game.. I especially like the sidequests..

JM

[Kassiopeia]

I loved Oblivion for the first two hours I played. After ten hours, I still enjoyed it. After a week, I stopped playing "to pick it up again later", and haven't gone back. The game just loses you as it drags on. The repetitiveness and lack of true depth are why.

I have not played other TES games so no opinion there.

[Jon Miller]

Note, I agree with the above statement.. of course, I think that is true of all SP games.

I just think that Oblivion did better than Morrowind.

JM

[Dis]

I played Morrowind a lot more.

I can't explain why. Perhaps because Oblivion isn't "different" enough. But I know that's not it. I played KOTOR2 all the way through even though it was very similar to the first one.

[AmericanCitizen]

AmericanCitizen = worse

Yep, that's accurate. I don't know...It was the repetition that eventually killed me. I just kept doing the same things over and over and over, but the story or the atmosphere or whatever just wasn't enough to keep me going.
Morrowind didn't have voice acting, but when I talked with someone, I felt that they had a little more background (even if it was just random stuff that all the other bots had) than here in Oblivion. I can't "chit chat" with people in Oblivion, all I can do is ask them about rumours and quest-related things. I don't know what profession these people are, what political beliefs they have, etc...It really detracted from the game for me.

I also didn't really think the story of Oblivion was compelling. I just wasn't really curious as to what was going to happen next. Plus, throughout Morrowind there was a lot of Lore to explore. There is lore here, too, but...I don't know, it seems different.

I kind of felt like the number of quests was small. I don't know if Morrowind had this problem, but it seemed to me like I was doing empty tasks, and then after a couple days, I had nothing interesting left. I could go out and explore the world, of course, but rarely anything new happend (The dungeons all blurred together, the occasional robber, etc)
And now they want me to pay them to get more quests, lol.

Morrowind was more addicting (my grades suffered during my Morrowind months lol) but Oblivion is just...underwhelming somehow.

If you like Oblivion, great! I like it too. I just think Morrowind is better.