Oblivion-The best game?

[Jon Miller]

It's better than Morrowind.. but still just OK.

JM

[Jon Miller]

I found a lot more RPG in Oblivion. I found less statquest 2006.

JM

[Gamecube64]

Oblivion: great game, or greatest game?

[Sandman]

It's more or less the same as Morrowind. Lots of exploring, but not that much to see.

It's kind of a jack-of-all-trades - it does a lot, but none of it that well. The dungeons, the set-pieces and quests tended to fall a little bit flat.

They should let you design your own spells whenever and wherever you want in the next game - with certain constraints based on class, etc. Set the player free!

[Ninot]

I've never gotten into the whole elder scrolls things, but I'm not much of an RPGer in any case.

My answer is no, either way.

I enjoy KOTOR, if anything. But Civ is always 1st.

[DrSpike]

I confess I'm a little confused.

It sounded bad to me, and I didn't play it as Morrowind was flawed at best. However, the early threads on Oblivion seemed to be full of praise from most, especially the Morrowind fanboys. Is this revisionist history or are the fanboys yet to post in the time this thread has been open?

[Harovan]

The fanbois haven't posted here yet. Also, as I said, at the beginning the game seems to be not bad. But the excitement factor about a new game with shiny graphics and a seemingly endless world wears out quick as the repetitiveness (Oblivion gates anyone?) and the suckiness (skill development, level scaling and all the others) kick in. Also, playing a game designed for the console on a PC blows.

[Dis]

with the exception of KOTOR. .

but other than that I have to agree. I was excited about it at first. The oblivion gates to get repetitive. When I saw one, I just wasn't interested in going in them. Some people have found good items in there, but I never have. It's just a bunch of monster bashing. And in a couple of them, I had trouble finding my way around.

[Hercules]

I get the picture.

[Dis]

some of the quests seemed kind of interesting. I remember that female orc I believe it was, that wanted to be a knight.

I admit, I didn't play enough to see most of the quests. There might be some good ones.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Also, playing a game designed for the console on a PC blows.

Some aspects (the menu system) were unforgiveable, but if it were designed for a console it would have had decent bosses and set-pieces.

[Ball Lightning]

Here's a link to the Elder Scrolls website
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Here's a link to the Forum.

Oblivion has won many awards, Its alot better then Morrowind.

[El_Cid]

Originally posted by DrSpike
I confess I'm a little confused.

It sounded bad to me, and I didn't play it as Morrowind was flawed at best. However, the early threads on Oblivion seemed to be full of praise from most, especially the Morrowind fanboys. Is this revisionist history or are the fanboys yet to post in the time this thread has been open?

Well it depends on who's revisionist history you feel more comfortable with. Follow Ball lightnings links if you dare and you will get the "official" message on Oblivion(bar the odd very critical thread in its forum that pops up from time to time).

Or there is the version that people like myself and Sir Ralph will highlight.

Unlike you i really liked Morrowind. Also i'm a big fan of Daggerfall and Arena, i've played them all(in that order actualy). None of the TES games has been perfect, but i have found many many hours of decent rpg gaming across those titles, and still do.

Morrowind i have to play with self enforced handicaps, you got too powerful too quickly imho, and it had serious issues with balancing in general. But after messing around with various mods i did end up with a great game that kept me interested for years.

Daggerfall is the one i play most of, while Morrowind reaches a point where you just feel like your doing the same stuff in the same order over again, Daggerfall by its more random nature at least keeps a bit of surprise going; even after countless playing time or repeated play throughs. But it has its flaws due to it not being completely finished on release, and it does look/feel more generic more quickly than Morrowind will - so it requires a bit more use of your role playing imagination.

Arena has always felt a little like Daggerfall 0.5 to me. It does some things better and some things worse, but i always prefer to play Daggerfall over Arena - maybe its the music and pure size of the game world that tickles my imagination better in Daggerfall?

Oblivion? - well i think my views on that monstrousity are very clear


"Oblivion has won many awards, Its alot better then Morrowind."

Yeah - it makes me very suspicious, i wonder how much exactly has been spent on marketing.......and who recived what?

by all means believe the hype - Bethesda are counting on folks like you. Dont forget the official mods that only cost a few bucks each. oh you lucky 360 owners!

Does it really matter that some of them have contained stuff seemingly removed from the origonal game? or at best are full of game breaking uber-items....so you can just go around feeling all uber with as little effort as possible?

Still as far as this longtime TES fanboy is concerned Oblivion = RIP TES. Its about as simple as that.

1.If you look around at recent games then Oblivion is an ok game, maybe even a good game - it certainly can offer many hours for your money.
2.If you own a 360 then Oblivion is an essential purchase(maybe the only one so far for that platform?).

Still if you've actualy played games over the years(longer than the last five years), neither of those two statements should give you any comfort what so ever.

If you've played and enjoyed previous TES games then Oblivion has a very high chance of breaking your heart and more importantly your trust of Bethesda as a company that can still produce fairly deep rpg games on an epic scale.

Where are these Morrowind fanboys that people have been talking about. I would like to discuss this topic with them more, and i really am interested to know if Oblivion is a TES game for new TES gamers alone, or if past TES fans actualy prefer it to the older games?

[Quillan]

Well, Cid, I suppose you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree. Like you, I've played the previous games, and I really like Oblivion. It's not perfect by a long shot (the interface really is inexcusable), but I've been able to use mods to make it a lot better. Could it have been (a lot) better? Absolutely. Did they concentrate on graphics over substance? It sure looks that way. However, I had loads of fun playing it, probably got 200+ hours out of it, so I'm not upset at all.

[Ball Lightning]

Oblivion is not perfect, i agree, it can be improved alot and it has had lots of marketing, but that doesn't make it a bad game. With mods you can get over 400 hours of play. I know many people that have played that much, yes it can be improved but it is still one of teh best games,. And i have played arena and daggerfall, they were good, but Morrowind and Oblivion were better.