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  • Dungeons and Dragons is the best role playing system for crpg's

    Or is it?

    I keep hearing how other systems are better because of flexibility and realism. But I find myself playing the D&D system the most. There has to be a reason for that, right? Although perhaps Bioware is the primary reason for that. If they hadn't made such good D&D games, I may feel otherwise. And the other reason is because I have actually played the pen and paper version of it.

    But in terms of the system itself. I think it's important to have differences between the classes. And consequently I'm fine with class restrictions. I don't want to see a druid running around with platemail. Although in 3rd edition you can do that. So perhaps you can say 2nd edition rules are better. But a druid is still a druid, and cannot cast mage spells. This is the way I like it.

    Morrowind did a pretty good job, but it still had serious flaws. And the classes didn't have enough distinction between each other. In fact, they didn't actually have classes.

    Speaking of, I heard Bioware is doing a non D&D game. Surely they are working on something. They passed on a KOTOR expansion and sequal. They haven't released anything in a while have they? At least nothing for the PC. Aside from a few things for NWN. Despite it not being D&D I think it could be good coming from Bioware. If it ever somes out.

  • #2
    and yes that's where I've been the past few days.

    I've been playing Baldur's Gate 2. Such a great game. I know I voted Neverwinter Nights as better because I have played it more. But Baldur's Gate 2 still holds a place in my heart.

    Just finished the main game with a druid as the main character. Avenger was my kit. I used to think druids sucked, but he turned into a pretty powerful character. I think I like them better than clerics now. As in real life I can care less about all the religious crap. I'd rather spend the time in nature.

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    • #3
      ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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      • #4
        There are just more D&D games than others. I'd rather have more Fallout like games personally.
        "Yay Apoc!!!!!!!" - bipolarbear
        "At least there were some thoughts went into Apocalypse." - Urban Ranger
        "Apocalype was a great game." - DrSpike
        "In Apoc, I had one soldier who lasted through the entire game... was pretty cool. I like apoc for that reason, the soldiers are a bit more 'personal'." - General Ludd

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        • #5
          Morrowind did a pretty good job
          LMFAO

          Morrowind is the ANTITHESIS of a good character creation system. Any character can do anything and differences in race, class, etc. amount to absolutely ZERO after level 10 or so.
          "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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          • #6
            yeah but at least they try to put some background to the races in the game history. so perhaps I should clarify that. The actual mechanics weren't that great. But the background story wasn't too bad.

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            • #7
              I can see that. I thought the story was pretty good, and the races were well fleshed out; however, I don't associate backstory with character creation.
              "Luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." - Chris Cornell, "Mindriot"

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              • #8
                It's quite nice whacking people with swords, but then, whacking them with lightsabres is also cool. Guess the setting doesn't matter that much to me.

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                • #9
                  Whacking rulez

                  DnD is the most widely known RPG game playing system, so it follows it would be the same with CRPG's.

                  Its not the best though, by a longway IMHO, and for some other good examples of CRPG you could look at:

                  Twilight 2000 - a post nuclear war crpg based on its own pen and paper system. This has a pretty real-world gritty feel to it, with lots of playing around with real world weapons and vehicles etc.

                  King of Dragon Pass - based on one of my favourite pen+paper traditional rpg's(RuneQuest). This game is tough if you know nothing about the RuneQuest world i would say, and even as a player of RuneQuest for many years; i would often wish i had to hand some of the DM's reference books to swat up on. Its an interesting game even so.
                  Last edited by child of Thor; January 22, 2005, 09:15.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DrSpike
                    It's quite nice whacking people with swords, but then, whacking them with lightsabres is also cool. Guess the setting doesn't matter that much to me.
                    And you can do both with D&D games!

                    Yay!

                    -Jam
                    1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                    That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
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                    • #11
                      I mentioned this before and nobody seem to know what I was talking about. I've always dreamed about a crpg based on Joe Dever's Lone Wolf series. While not as elaborate as DnD games (in terms of game play and rules) the background information and stories are excellent.
                      Who is Barinthus?

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                      • #12
                        There is an excellent conversion of the Lone Wolf books to NWN.

                        Let me find you a link...

                        Test of the Sun:


                        Mysteries in the Night:


                        Both of these have more than 50,000 downloads and have won prizes (Mod of the year 2002, NWN Hall of Fame...)

                        -Jam
                        1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                        That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                        Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                        Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                        • #13
                          Lone Wolf? as in the 'choose your own adventure' type books that came out in the late 80's?

                          Edit: ah Jamski answered me before i thought of the question

                          Ok yes Lone Wolf was cool, but my fav out of all that lot has to be the 'Way of the tiger' series http://homepages.tesco.net/~parsonsp...the_tiger.html.

                          Its difficult to beat a ninja for all around sexiness.
                          Last edited by child of Thor; January 22, 2005, 11:05.
                          'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                          Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DrSpike
                            It's quite nice whacking people with swords, but then, whacking them with lightsabres is also cool. Guess the setting doesn't matter that much to me.
                            of course, kotor is using the D&D d20 system, so that doesn't count as it's own system

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                            • #15
                              Well just because the engine is almost the same as the one used in D&D games doesn't make it a D&D game.

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