FG: Society IV

[Ljube]

I miscalculated my trade.

Please pay attention.

[Sparrowhawk]

1850 AD

1850 AD
Turn #10

Spy Union goes on strike, cite unsafe work conditions
The Dudes tried again with their spy today, but gave it a mission of Ljubium instead of a repeat of the same mission as previous, however this had the same result as the spy of Ljubium was prepared for the very occurance and defended the Military Training Facilities at a cost of both spies lives.

War influencing trading, sanctions begun against agressive Empires

From	                Cost	Revenue	To            Revenue
Smiley (15 caravans)	390	4950	Ljube  		4950

Spaced (11 caravans)	286	3630	Jonny     	3630

Ljube (11 Caravans)     286	3630	Jonny		3630

Jonny (15 Caravans)     390	4950	Ljube		4950

Whoha (12 Caravans)	276	2376	Spaced		3168

The Most Evil Empire (tm) joins other Fussion Powered Empires
The Most Evil Empire (tm) matched the other 2 fussion powered empires in scientific knowledge while The Dudes settled for the knowledge of Miniaturization and Space Flight.

Space Race Heats Up
Both the Paragon of Empire and the Land of continued Space Ship construction today by adding their second part. Training has begun among potential astronauts and colonizers to determine who will travel to the stars.

War Escalates in 4 Societies, Goes Nuclear between two Empires
The Dudes mounted a massive ground war today against their southern enemies, the Land of Cubium they added 409 armies to bring their total army size to 808. Then they sent 606 of these armies at Cubium, totally destroying the newly conscripted defenders (408) of Cubium and assimilating their cities into the Land of The Dudes. The Dudes meanwhile lost 32 of their attacking armies.

Meanwhile, in the Most Evil Empire (tm) the military was kept at home to defend the Empire while they launched 14 Nuclear Missiles at the cities of the Paragon of Empire. When the first of the advance scounts of the Most Evil Empire (tm) were able to enter the radioactive wasteland left behind they were surprised to find one Paragon city still standing, apparently the result of a newly built SDI shooting down one of the incoming missiles.

 
    
    
 
      
Society
 
      
Cities
 
      
Tech
 
      
Army
 
      
Nukes/SDI
 
      
SS Parts
 
      
Gold
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Spaced Cowboy - Republic
 
      
34
 
      
13
 
      
776
 
      
0/0
 
      
0
 
      
5521
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
:) Smiley - Republic
 
      
20
 
      
15
 
      
475
 
      
0/6
 
      
2
 
      
2983
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Jonny - Republic
 
      
1
 
      
15
 
      
326
 
      
0/1
 
      
2
 
      
11702
 
    
 

    
    
 
      
Whoha - Monarchy
 
      
13
 
      
15
 
      
129
 
      
0/0
 
      
0
 
      
1861
 
    
 

Wonders of the World
The Smiles High Tower (E2)
The Cubic Colosseum (B7) of The Dudes
The Trojan Horse of (E3)
The Cubium Acropolis (C7) of The Dudes
The Silk Path to The Dudes of Ljubium (B9)
The of Jihad (E4)
The Mafia of Paragon of Empire (H2)
The Trans-siberian Railroad of (F1)
The NRA of the Paragon of Empire (H3)
The Dudes University of California in Ljubium (A9)
Nascar (F3)
KGB Dudes of Ljubium (A8)
Majestic 12 of (F2)
The Dudes Galactic Overlord of Ljubium (c9)

Future Techs
Cost of Tech 14 (The Laser) is now 604 Gold
Cost of Tech 15 (Fussion Power) is now 976 Gold

Wars
The Most Evil Empire (tm) vs. The Paragon of Empire

[Sparrowhawk]

A question on Nukes that may require me to edit my table...

Do Nukes kill defending armies?

I don't see anywhere in the rules that they do, yet it just seems common sense to me taht they would (the Military isn't going to have time to evacuate, and the military is definitely in all the cities so it doesn't make sense to me that all of the army would survive.

However, I am hoping that Gamecube (as a former GM but who is now just an interested participant) or Smiley, (who has a vested interest but knows what happened in previous games) will let me know what has been done in the past.

/me

I miscalculated my trade.

Please pay attention.

While I did pay special attention to it to make sure I got it right....by these two statements doesn't it seem that you are the one who should pay attention

Just kidding Ljube and thanks for stepping in for Gamecube. Well played, though almost in a sacrificial role, as I suspect this game would be over with Smiley getting a cultural victory if you had not overmatched him in the Wonder Race.

[Whoha]

SDI aren't expended?

[Whoha]

sent.

[Skanky Burns]

IIRC nukes did not kill defending armies in the previous game. Enough of the units get evacuated to keep operating in the militia.

[:) Smiley]

Not like it makes that huge a difference, often things end up like Jonny, where armies become useless.

[Sparrowhawk]

Originally posted by Whoha
SDI aren't expended?

I assume not, but again I hadn't considered this possibility.

I would think that they would continue to operate even after defending against a nuke.

Not sure about additional SDI though, can you have more then one per city? (I wouldn't think so)

/me

[:) Smiley]

Original intention with SDI: they are orbiting satellites. Thus they are reusable (which is why they cost so much) and you can have more SDI than cities (otherwise, all someone would need to do is fire missiles equal to 2x the number of cities you have.

[duke o' york]

But that now means that Jonny's only surviving city is effectively invulnerable. Troops can't cross the nuclear wasteland to get it, and nukes can't blow it up. Can I suggest that when cities have been nuked, then that civ loses a number of their armies proportional to thew number of cities nuked over the number of total cities? Also, that if someone really wanted to finish Jonny off, then they can send armies, but that some of them will be killed by the nuclear wasteland?

[Ljube]

Jonny will win this game. He'll construct the third spaceship part and a bunch of SDIs. Smiley will also win in the same way.

Spaced could have prevented them both had he not attacked me. To attack me once was OK, though maybe not the best move, but to attack me twice was a huge error.

[Spaced Cowboy]

sent

[:) Smiley]

Jonny's last city is nukeable; wonder cities are only safe when you have other cities.

Sent.

[Sparrowhawk]

Duke's makes some good points that I should clarify before I get the last of this turns orders (just waiting on Jonny).

Originally posted by duke o' york
But that now means that Jonny's only surviving city is effectively invulnerable. Troops can't cross the nuclear wasteland to get it, and nukes can't blow it up.

Nukes can still attack a city defended by SDI, from the rules the SDI blocks one nuclear missile per turn (so if someone has one SDI and two missiles are sent, the second gets through and destroys a city).

Originally posted by duke o' york
Can I suggest that when cities have been nuked, then that civ loses a number of their armies proportional to thew number of cities nuked over the number of total cities? Also, that if someone really wanted to finish Jonny off, then they can send armies, but that some of them will be killed by the nuclear wasteland?

Not sure about the crossing the nuclear wasteland either, you have to be adjacent to your neighbour to go to war with them, but how do you become a neighbour with someone who has a Nuclear Wasteland in between you. I think these are good points to consider for the next game, but for this one I think we should leave it as status quo and that the wasteland cannot be crossed by armies.

Anyone object or have any other suggestions?

/me

[Jonny]

Sent.