XBox2: Not backwards compatible

[child of Thor]

Apparantly xbox still isnt making MS money. So i guess they needed a radical rethink on what to do with xbox2?

Still i can forgive the lack of harddrive(as a design descision) but no backward compatibility is just pants( bad ). This will also have a bearing on the origonal xbox, companies wont be so keen to support the format, and i predict with the announced plans for xbox2, poor sales in the console market vs Sony/Nintendo. So MS will loose what inroads it has already made.

We will all look back at the xbox experience with a whimsical smile, a bit like i do when i think of the Dragon32/Oric/AtariXE/AmigaCD32/Atari Lynx etc. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot MS

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Actually, yes, it does. See, in order to, with certainty, say that you would have to be able to either read the persons mind or know enough of the persons history in order to make a proper determination.

I'm *assuming* that you can't fulfill either requirement

Your second paragraph is entirely right, your first, well..........

I guess I'll just never understand people who consider backwards compatability a major factor when purchasing a new console. It's like buying a new car and worrying that the in-car CD player won't play your old tapes.

[Zero]

backward compatibility isnt a big deal.

I didnt have my own ps1 ever, so when i got ps2 it was actually a bigger deal than most ppl who owned ps1 anyway..... but even for my case... i could have gone and bought cheap used ps1 that was popping around everywhere to get next gen sys.....

thats how i got DC cheap. I just waited until it was obsolete. Having the ability to play old console sys isnt that big of a deal cause you can buy em cheap. And think.... btw time next gen console sys comes out with backward compatibility means automatically that its time around last gen sys will be cheap anyway.

I still play alot of ps1 games btw. And I use ps2 games to run it. I like the feature alot, but if there wasnt a feature itd just be annoying for me to purchase an old ps1 sys and having to rewire the cables to the tv and all that tedious ****.

[reds4ever]

I'm not sure how it works, but presumably MS have a initial price that they'd like to be able to produce the XBox2 for, if theyre stuggling to make that price and they've got to trim features, backwards compatabilty would be the first I'd let go, rather than less memory, slower graphics card or whatever, things that affect the qualilty of games that can be brought out for the machine for it's entire future.

[asleepathewheel]

I'm suprised that it would be a problem to do the feature, as presumably they are using a DVD base, right? IIRC, they were going to use the next-gen HD-DVD or something. Or is the problem keeping the hardware componets compatible? Maybe switching the processor throws it off? Anyway, I'm suprised that they don't have a solution other than dropping it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It's like buying a new car and worrying that the in-car CD player won't play your old tapes.

A more apt analogy would be buying a new car and worrying that the in-car CD player won't play your old CDs.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

It's like buying a new car and worrying that the in-car CD player won't play your old tapes.

A more apt analogy would be buying a new car and worrying that the in-car CD player won't play your old CDs.

Even more apter would be buying a DVD system to go in the back of the car and worrying it would n't play your CD's

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
And remember: Thats not the primary purpose of a car (to play music).

The primary purpose of a *gaming console* is to :idea; play games

But you've (presumably) already got one that plays your old games? Why have you bought a new one to play them as well?

Anyway I give up (and I would have given up sooner, but for the +1's), I just can't see the point of compromsing the specs of a new console so it can play old games.

[Tassadar500]

Not really, as CD's are not the same as DVD's.

[Nostromo]

For those of you who are too lazy to read the whole text on the other Xbox 2 thread, here is what the Microsoft guy has to say (presumably) about backwards compatibility:

People often ask if Xenon can be backward compatible with Xbox. Although the architecture of the two consoles is quite different, Xenon has the processing power to emulate Xbox. Whether Xenon will be backward compatible involves a variety of factors, not the least of which is the massive development and testing effort required to allow Xbox games run on Xenon.

[Tassadar500]

Xenon?

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Nuclear Master
Not really, as CD's are not the same as DVD's.

And PSOne games are not the same as PS2 games, one machine can play both, the other machine can only play one.

I think it' fits rather well!

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by nostromo
For those of you who are too lazy to read the whole text on the other Xbox 2 thread, here is what the Microsoft guy has to say (presumably) about backwards compatibility:

err.....you mean, like all of us?

[Imran Siddiqui]

would be buying a DVD system to go in the back of the car and worrying it would n't play your CD's

Even though as pointed out DVDs and CDs are totally different mediums, EVERY DVD player on the market today can play CDs. Thanks for making my point .

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by reds4ever


And PSOne games are not the same as PS2 games, one machine can play both, the other machine can only play one.

I think it' fits rather well!

It doesn't. For PSX, you play games. For PS2, you play games. For DVD's, you play movies, for CD's, you play audio.