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  • Ref an interesting few posts:

    Posted by Peter Triggs(in the ‘I am Slow’ thread).

    'Patience, Grasshopper' (as they say)

    I came across this yesterday (on a site that's not allowed to be mentioned around here ):

    "quote:When Activision was founded on October 1, 1979 by four veterans of the video and home entertainment industries, the company made history by becoming the first independent designer and marketer of home video game software. Irked by Atari's lack of respect and recognition given to their game designers and programmers, David Crane, Alan Miller, Bob Whitehead and Larry Kaplan left Atari and formed Activision with the financial help of James Levy (who became President and CEO of the company). They were later joined by other talented designers such as Larry Kitchen, Carol Shaw, Steve Cartwright and Alan Miller. Beginning in 1981, Activision released a barrage of first-rate VCS titles that captivated the gaming public and made people aware that Atari wasn't the only one that made games for the [Atari] 2600. Activision not only inspired other programmers and entrepreneurs to set up shop as independent publishers but they also forced Atari, at least temporarily, to improve on the quality of its own games. Activision was quite possibly the most prolific third party videogame publisher in their time, churning out everything from top notch sports games, (Boxing, Skiing, Tennis, Ice Hockey) racers (Grand Prix, Decathlon, Enduro) and even arcade adaptations (Rampage, Kung Fu Master, Commando, Double Dragon). Their original PC games enjoyed less success than Atari 2600 classics such as River Raid and Little Computer People, but did attract a loyal following. Among the most underrated games Activision made for PC are Portal, Ghostbusters, and Alter Ego.Activision was also innovative in other ways. They credited their designers by mentioning them on the manual of each of their games. (Lord British and Roberta Williams came later). Activision also offered patches to gamers who attained a certain score in their games as an added incentive. "


    Maybe all this badmouthing they've been getting around here is a bit over the top.' - end

    I think we need to keep it in perspective - all this was a LONG time ago, when Activision actually first developed games in house. Now they are publishers only and those ideals of the early days have long gone.

    Its a very different ballpark these days - and in a way the industry only has itself to blame.
    Hype, 'mercenry' game reviews and a glut of frankly uninspiring games have taken their toll.
    Most people who know their games are now very wary of any new release, and the wise wait for others to buy and then check the forums to see what the 'real' game is like, not the image of it the industry has spent tens of thousands to promote.

    Still what other option do the big publishers have? When a game costs movie money to make?
    Will they realise how to turn the situation around before the money dries up?
    How many more development houses will crash and burn?

    So im not very sympathetic towards Activision as it now stands - especially concerning CTP2.

    If they somehow find some of the old spirit mentioned in that article above i'll be amongst the first to pat them on the back
    'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

    Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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    • Originally posted by child of Thor
      Why is it that people like st_swithin get the rub and are in a position where the industry can say 'we OWN you and we decide you wont work again'?
      Surely something isnt right here?
      I still don't know what's going on. Activision was, for a while, emulating the movie industry's production scheme. I remember thinking how odd it was that for CTP2, we were required to use only SAG actors to do VO. Of course, I couldn't do any of the voices myself because I am not SAG, but I could direct the actors.

      It's a very strange time in the industry - there's no rhyme or reason in Tinseltown, nor can there be in a pseudo-Tinseltown.
      -30-

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      • Yes it is a strange time, for the life of me it just smacks of extreme short range vision - at least for the continuing production of a varied product for the gamer.
        Its too risky to be interesting\different now.


        at the news of the imminent release of the code! My pat on the back is hovering

        Go Acti! Go Acti!
        'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

        Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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        • All those that have said some bad words about Activision should go out and should only come back after they have washed their mouth.
          "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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          • tamerlin take a chill pill they still realised a game with no official support which is a big no no if you want good public relations
            "Every time I learn something new it pushes some old stuff out of my brain" Homer Jay Simpson
            The BIG MC making ctp2 a much unsafer place.
            Visit the big mc’s website

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            • I know, I know... but they have released the source code and no one could have imagined that.
              "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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              • so did hafe life but they still made a hafe life 2
                "Every time I learn something new it pushes some old stuff out of my brain" Homer Jay Simpson
                The BIG MC making ctp2 a much unsafer place.
                Visit the big mc’s website

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                • but it was accidental!!

                  This was deliberate from Activision



                  a BIG HUGE PAT

                  I tried to check their website to see what games they had coming out, but it was down!!!

                  I hope the source code release wasn't the last gasp of a giant wanting to be rembered fondly - like in the good old days when they were THE guys

                  Anyway from the bits that i've read today it looks like people are already at it hammer and tong - its going to be great seeing where this all leads over the next couple of years.

                  Thanks the guys at Activsion who decided to do this - i hope more publishers take note
                  'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                  Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                  • May I remind some of us that they have promised to buy an Activision game if the Source Code was released.
                    "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • True

                      Hmmm well my current PC is a P166!(i like the old classic games best ), so i'm pretty sure nothing recent will run on that, so that leaves my xbox and the only thing that looks slightly interesting to me is Kelly Slaters Pro Surfing.

                      Living in London i dont get to surf much anymore - so this might be a nice compromise, maybe an ealry xmas pressie to myself?
                      Still its not the kind of game i love to play best, so i'm not sure - i might have to hold on till xmas and see what else they got coming. Its a shame they aren't doing the JediKnight games anymore........
                      'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                      Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                      • good job i did not make that promise
                        "Every time I learn something new it pushes some old stuff out of my brain" Homer Jay Simpson
                        The BIG MC making ctp2 a much unsafer place.
                        Visit the big mc’s website

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                        • Originally posted by The Big Mc
                          good job i did not make that promise
                          Neither did I.

                          "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • I intend to purchase Doom 3 if I ever have a computer that will run it... That's not likely to happen soon, though.

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                            • !!J Bytheway, from the effort you're putting into the source code project i dont think you'll have time to play games
                              And im sure the eventual extra sales Activision will get due to your work will be compensation enough

                              Doom3 just looks too damn weird/scary to me
                              'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

                              Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.

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                              • Going to purchase doom 3 when it's out definitely.
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