TileEdit: first beta release is here

[Martin the Dane]

Originally posted by E
I flipped through the thread but didn't see a list for what the 13 VRs apply to. Unless you know I'll try to work it and write up a list.

I' dont think anybody have written down the list but here it is: (please note that TileEdit uses 0-based counts so the numbers should be 0-12 not 1-13, but that's not supported by this forum)[list=1][*]TileSetIndex 6: Swamp[*]TileSetIndex 8: Mountain [*]TileSetIndex 8: Mountain[*]TileSetIndex 9: Hill[*]TileSetIndex 10: Shallow[*]TileSetIndex 10: Shallow[*]TileSetIndex 11: Deep[*]TileSetIndex 11: Deep[*]TileSetIndex 14: Ocean Shelf[*]TileSetIndex 19: Desert Mountain[*]TileSetIndex 19: Desert Mountain[*]TileSetIndex 21: Polar Mountain[*]TileSetIndex 21: Polar Mountain[/list=1]

Originally posted by E
What is the update button supposed to do?

The update button updates the interface on the left if you go to text mode and make changes by typing the values, as oposed to using the interface on the left side.

Originally posted by E
If I add a terrain set, I assume I have to script what properties it has because I notice that the VR applies to a number code for each tile set. Is there a way to do this through tile edit or does it have to be scripted?

In the original TileSet each VR applies to a terrain type (TileSetIndex) but it seems to be possible to make mixed terrain VRs. As far as I know noone tried it though.

As to an updated TileEdit: I havn't completed it yet, it took a bit longer than expected.

[Ekmek]

I'm still messing around with VRs. If I'm not mistaken it looks like that you have to do a VR for each set with different directions. right?

[Martin the Dane]

AFAIK: no. Based on the structure of the TileFile. You can have any number of VRs for any terrain, or non at all. I don't know how CtP chose witch if any VR to use.

[The Big Mc]

Don’t make a vr of one in testing it completely took over the hole terrain.

[Ekmek]

Originally posted by The Big Mc
Don’t make a vr of one in testing it completely took over the hole terrain.

BigMC
Do you mean that a VR of one terrain type replaces all of the others?

[The Big Mc]

almost

[Martin the Dane]

Just Uploaded the new version and a patch for build 27 to my webpage.

The fixes are:

• Options page windows size bug fixed.
• The colors used when importing tga-files can now be saved to the ini-file, and default colors can be set on the Options meue.
• Helpfile has been updated.

Go to my page or get it here
Plese post any bugs and typoes.

[Ekmek]

just when I finished my tiles too! actually therer i always room for improvement so I'll get into it soon! thanks!

[Ekmek]

I LOVE THE NEW TILE EDIT!

The Bkgd and size changes help a lot thanks!

Another questions popped up as I was continuing my update...if I have 0,0,0 black on a tile what does it do on the map? from the looks of things it appears to make it transparent and lets the nearest (South west) tile overlap into it...is this correct?

[Martin the Dane]

Originally posted by E
I LOVE THE NEW TILE EDIT!

Thanks

Originally posted by E
Another questions popped up as I was continuing my update...if I have 0,0,0 black on a tile what does it do on the map? from the looks of things it appears to make it transparent and lets the nearest (South west) tile overlap into it...is this correct?

AFAIK 0,0,0 makes the background shine through, what this is depends on various factors, near the border areas, you get the red, purple, blue, or green border. (at least that was what happend in ctp1, that's why I use those colors) What happens in other places I don't know, but I think ctp2 uses the first tile of that kind in the tile-file as a background.

[Ekmek]

Originally posted by Martin the Dane

AFAIK 0,0,0 makes the background shine through, what this is depends on various factors, near the border areas, you get the red, purple, blue, or green border. (at least that was what happend in ctp1, that's why I use those colors) What happens in other places I don't know, but I think ctp2 uses the first tile of that kind in the tile-file as a background.

I'll play around with it but I won't distract you with tile edit anymore, I want to see the next sprite edit build

[Ekmek]

Originally posted by Martin the Dane

Thanks


AFAIK 0,0,0 makes the background shine through, what this is depends on various factors, near the border areas, you get the red, purple, blue, or green border. (at least that was what happend in ctp1, that's why I use those colors) What happens in other places I don't know, but I think ctp2 uses the first tile of that kind in the tile-file as a background.

I toyed with making the coast tile that looks like a lake and gave it a black perimeter. It looks like 0,0,0 will fill with the neighboring tile up to the border part but I also got a weird beige color.

unfortunately, I'll be offline for about a month starting on 28 June, maybe BigMC is willing to experiment further...

[The Big Mc]

What you trying to do

but i am a bit busy right now with the end of my course.

[Ekmek]

I know your busy BigMC and I'm sure when you are done with your course you have lots you want to do. I was just figuring you might mess with it when you are done with the course and I'm on vacation

What I was trying to do is create some terrains that blend INSIDE the tile parameters and not OUTSIDE like I did with my tilefile. I made it more earthlike by exploiting the overlap but if the game reads 0,0,0 black as a background color and than fills that black with neighboring tiles that I could put smaller and more earthly shapes inside each tile and avoild some of the messier overlapping. I have managed to keep the overlap less messy but if you notice in my file I had to "cut" grooves on bothsides of the graphic so the rivers don't get cut up by the overlap. Thats why the earthy shapes are more like "wings" instead of blended curves...

The other thing was to try and incorporate the idea primemover was talking about with trees going on all terrains. If the back ground is black you could see pines on plains and grasslands as opposed to only grasslands like it is now.

I do think if primemover breaks into the code and sees how rivers are done trees could work that way better.

But overall thats what I'm trying to do....

[The Big Mc]

E I would go for a completely different approach. I would add completely new tiles for mountain forests. If you go the way you’re describing you will only confuse people as distinguishing between forest types may be hard.