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  • Originally posted by blackice
    So back to Londons. Has anyone noticed the after effect of Londons?

    Science and gold, some of these wonders last longer than advertised. Noticed that?

    So come on anyone how would you counter the threat. What's your sollution?

    Quinn? Ber? Hatch? Gav, David? Nuke, keygen, Cauch, EPW?

    Toss it about....
    hmmm



    London Bridge is falling down, falling down falling down.....My Fair Lady!!

    or tell dem English Blokes Tea is better served Cold...{brrrr}


    I am not sure and have not seen it last longer than Robotics....

    Gramps
    Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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    • Hey Blackice, I'm adopted too

      I never tried to look up my Birth parents, for some reason it doesn't occur to me to do so.

      My adopted parents are all I've ever needed for sure.

      It's kind of fun being adopted, my friends can refer to me as B.a.s.t.a.r.d and I just don't take offence
      If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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      • Checkmate too true. I simply wanted to find out if my bio family had any history of medical problems I should be aware of in later life. IMHO not providing that information with an adopted child is just criminal.
        “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
        Or do we?

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        • I think London Exchange is just rediculously powerful wonder, I mean 0 maintenance cost? That's rediculous. That's to good. I think that in a close game LE would pretty much seal it for the builder. The only real way to counter it is to take that city that built it. This must be done quickly or else the opponents civ will grow out of your control quickly.
          If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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          • Yes, LE is a powerhouse. A huge one. I remember testing it often against the AI, and I easily saw that after building the LE, you can get all the tech you want at amazing speeds, and complete the alien victory even, omitting Robotics so as not to make the LE obsolete.
            Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
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            I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

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            • Sorry guys it would seem I cross threaded here. This conversation with many others is happening in the strategy thread. DoH! lol
              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
              Or do we?

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              • Originally posted by blackice
                Sorry guys it would seem I cross threaded here. This conversation with many others is happening in the strategy thread. DoH! lol
                If we keep up this cross threading we could make an entire quilt out of this forum.
                If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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                • Originally posted by checkMate
                  I think London Exchange is just rediculously powerful wonder, I mean 0 maintenance cost? That's rediculous. That's to good. I think that in a close game LE would pretty much seal it for the builder. The only real way to counter it is to take that city that built it. This must be done quickly or else the opponents civ will grow out of your control quickly.
                  Edison Lab is worse in my opinion - but back to topic: About the LE:

                  And I think the game between me and Blackice is the reason to his questions (my sciencepoints rose skyhigh, when I conqered the LE from the AI).

                  But it droped to half, when Blackice discovered Robotics. Just as it should.

                  What he sees now is the full effect of my (and I think Dimytes and his own) strategy - the modified rabbitstrategy - where no cities are placed without at least one tradegood. All goods in trade and no sci-booster (academies etc.) in cities with less than 300 guld income (my tresshold, I don't think Dimytes builds any at all) and about 80 cities.

                  From about 5.000 sci-points under communism and with LE active, I dropped to 2500 sci-points - but when I changed to Corporate Republic, I finally got that sci-boost I needed: More than 18.000 and still going up.
                  First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

                  Gandhi

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                  • Good points Birdy, I should point out with the modifications while in fasist I was about 4900 points. When I moved to c.r. I was about 5800, now 17000 and going up. So as we can see L.E. was some what negated with the strategy I presented. I built every wonder after londons and now enjoy an 11 tech advantage.

                    I will get a very quick double science boost with dinasaur park maybe three turns with which I can either increase the tech lead or more than likey rush buy improvements for space cities.

                    Mind you most if not all cities now have fusion plants etc... So my gold cost is way higher but then so is my production. The final touch will be building televisions in about 3 turns which should close to double my science rate. I expect to see about 32-40,000 science rate with a population by then that should be close to 4 billion. 3,6 now. Including 10 space cities I have 90+ now the draw back for me now will be new techs causing chaos in my civ.

                    That boost I got by rushing to C.R. put me about 10 techs ahead where it still remains.

                    Like you I have always practiced rabbit with goods in every city. It is the way to go
                    “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                    Or do we?

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                    • Ok this is true I swear, today I was driving down a country road between two cities. It is thanksgiving here in Canada and generally people have turkey for dinner.
                      I see five fat wild turkeys run out of the trees lol. I think to myself in 9 years here on the same road, I have never seen a wild turkey. Deer, racoons, skunks etc but no wild turkeys. So of all the weekends these birds choose to come out of the forest, thanksgiving.

                      Explains there rank in the food chain well though.
                      “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                      Or do we?

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                      • Originally posted by blackice
                        Ok this is true I swear, today I was driving down a country road between two cities. It is thanksgiving here in Canada and generally people have turkey for dinner.
                        I see five fat wild turkeys run out of the trees lol. I think to myself in 9 years here on the same road, I have never seen a wild turkey. Deer, racoons, skunks etc but no wild turkeys. So of all the weekends these birds choose to come out of the forest, thanksgiving.

                        Explains there rank in the food chain well though.
                        Down here in North Carolina we see lots of Wild Turkey coming out of the woods..only problem is it is:

                        A) in the liquid form

                        B) in the possession of Rednecks-R-us

                        C) causes you to see Canadians driving down country roads, sometimes 5 canadians at a time..
                        something..well this time of year..ya just dont see

                        Gramps
                        Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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                        • If you see turkeys around here they follow the hunters back to the house. Turkeys are the stupidest animals on earth.
                          If it ain't broke, find a bigger hammer.

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                          • Originally posted by checkMate
                            If you see turkeys around here they follow the hunters back to the house. Turkeys are the stupidest animals on earth.


                            Did anyone ever see the Show on tv called W K R P IN CINNCINNATI ?

                            It has Les Nessman,Johnny Fever, ect.

                            Anyway, they had this promotion where they dropped Turkeys from a Helicopter..

                            I forget who said it but they explained that.."Look, Turkeys have feathers..I THOUGHT THEY COULD FLY?

                            Funny stuff

                            Gramps

                            Oh yeah...they followed one another to the ground
                            Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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                            • I saw that one

                              Funny stuff those birds sure are dumb man

                              Ok games will be delayed one more day. I am building my (another) "new" computer tonight... Sweet, 3.6 gig, 200 gig 8mb cache s-ata hd, 80 gig 8mb s-ata, 60 gig 7200 ata hd, 40 gig ata 7200, 16x dvd +- rw duel layer burner, 52x 24x52 cdrw burner, 2 gigs ddr2 533 ram, 256mb x16 pciexpress video card, 7.1 surround sound, holds 4x s-ata 4x ata, now thats a server. 8 minutes to load xp, complete )
                              Off to play with it, I'll have more time Sunday to load em up.
                              Last edited by blackice; October 22, 2004, 22:11.
                              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                              Or do we?

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                              • Wow, Pete, that's a bit of a machine... impressive . How much does that rig cost together? It sounds so absolutely kickass... I'm speechless!
                                Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
                                Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
                                I can kill you whenever I please... but not today. - The Cigarette Smoking Man

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