Never Ending Chiron - Discussion

[Mellian]

does anyone know of a good and simple site with unit organization/formation sizes, which provide a good average of numbers of vehicules or soldiers?

-Mellian

[Jamski]

No, but I'm interested in taking the Hive. Is this on "go" ?

-Jam

[Mellian]

go as in, has it started yet? no, as i still have a few thingas to write up and create the map.

-Mellian

[Jamski]

Cool. Very cool. I can wait a mo.

*WoA rubs his hands together in anticipation*

-Jam

[Mellian]

Okay, i attached the Map we are going to use, so I suggest each player who is interested and has already chosen a faction pick a starting location, as to where their headquarters will be.

So post your first and second (just incase someone picks the same area) choices here in the Discussion thread.

then, i also suggest thinking about what kind of stuff you want to start with in the year 2120 using the start up resources. Like for example, if you a Recycling Tanks for this base, will cost 400 production points. If you want another base, will cost you like 110 production points for the Colony Pod. Costs are base what is shown in the manual...and keep in mind that the Cost is multiplied by 10...the Industry bonus will be ignored here as it will be used anyway to increase or lower the average resources start up, depending on the faction.

Technology multipliers is 100...so for a level 2 tech, will cost 200 research points to acquire it. Sub-techs thing doesn't count for start up, and reserves for when the game stars.

if you have no manual, or for convenience sake, can go to http://www.firaxis.com/smac/ to figure out costs and so on.

so here is the start up packages for each SMAC faction:

Believers

5 population units (Growth 0)
5000 production points (Industry 0)
400 research points (Research -2, no research until 2110)
100 energy in the treasury (Economy 0)

free colony pod to be used for extra base or not

free Scout Patrol

starting tech: Social Psych


Gaians

5 population units
5000 production points
1000 research points
100 energy in the treasury

free colony pod

free scout patrol

free mind worm (Planet +1)

starting tech: centauri ecology

Hive

6 population points (Growth +1)
6000 production points (Industry +1)
1000 research points
60 energy in the treasury (Economy -2)

free perimeter defence at every base

free colony pod

free scout patrol

starting tech: Doctrine Loyalty

Morganites

5 population points
5000 production points
1000 research points
220 energy points (Economy +1, 100 energy bonus)

free colony pod

free scout patrol

starting tech: Industrial Economics

Peacekeepers (me, but doing it anyway for people to see)

5 population points
5000 production points]
1000 research points
100 energy

free colony pod

free scout patrol

starting tech: Biogenetics

Spartans

5 population points
4000 production points (Industry -1)
1000 research units
100 energy in the treasury

starting morale of units +2 from Regular (Military +2)

free colony pod

free recon rover

starting tech: Doctrine Mobility

University

5 population points
5000 production points
1400 research points (Research +2)
100 energy

free Network Node at every base

+1 bonus tech

free colony pod

free scout patrol

starting tech: Information Networks

[GeneralTacticus]

That file doesn't seem to work. (or rather, I have no idea what to open it with)

[Jamski]

Oh God this looks complicated. Give us time to get our heads around it please

-Jam

[Mellian]

Just the start up thing, ill figure out the rest, don't worry. just tell me want you want, in techs, units, extra base or two base on how population you have, and so on.

each pop unit is = 10 000 people pretty much.

what are you having trouble with...opening the zip file or the scenario file? if scenario, have to open it with Alien Crossfire, sorry but it is the defaul map as the normal SMAC version, just with some Alien Crossfire stuff to it.

-Mellian

[GeneralTacticus]

Ah, I thought it was a map file That would explain it.

[Sovereign]

Ahh... I might have a problem.

On one of my two computers, I have cross-fire installed, but it won't run at all. The computer it's on exceeds the minimum requirements, with 1.5 GHZ processor, 80 GB memory, 128 GB RAM, etc.

My second computer runs crossfire just fine, and is about 1/3 the power and tech as my newer computer.

I'm at college, and I'm using the newer computer, so I won't be able to open up crossfire until I get home in late May.

So if anyone's willing to help me out with opening files or maps or whatever, I'd be very grateful.

[Mellian]

Sovereign, got this from another board:

"Try this: open the centauri.ini file in your text editor of choice, find the line "ForceOldVoxelAlgorithm=0", and change the number from 0 to 1. What should happen is that you still get the error message, but you can bypass it by clicking on OK, and the game should run perfectly."

I would try it before posting it, but I am still stuck with a P3 500mhz

-Mellian

[Mellian]

I may just make copy and paste into jpg/gif, the posted in the datalinks thread.

will also do my start up package for the Peacekeepers as an example, a long how i will organize the Faction, base and Military informations.

-Mellian

[Mellian]

also don't forget to download and install the latest patch too.

-Mellian

[Sovereign]

Ok, mellian, I'll give it a try.

If it fails, I'll have to wait until I get home to the computer that can open up Crossfire. It's just 4 more weeks, I believe. So if you guys want to start this game next week or the week after, may I be granted a slight delay until I get home?

I'd like to try this scenario stuff out. It seems like a fun enterprise.

[Mellian]

I am just using the scenario map simply as a map, not actually play it also using it to get various resources information.

-Mellian