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  • Before i start... I am against super weapons/techs/defences/etc... so be careful with this anti-alien plague now actually, it is overlly silly for a plague that only kills aliens, not other humans.... (the impression i am getting without reaching to that point in the story) Even if you "program" the plague to sniff living beings DNA and etc to see wether or not their Human, it won't work. In this day and age of BAC, it is rare to find natural bred Humans...with all this genetic engineering, longivity, mutations, telepathy gene, cyborg stuff, etc going on, makes very hard. Even if the plague is Nano related and i having the feeling that Lonestar is to much into Babylon 5 (hidden argument... that essay wether the Shadows ships are bio or nanite base is ridiculous and a lot of the evidence doesn't prove wether their ships are bio or not. just because they use nanites in their plague doesn't mean the Shadow ships' armor is nano base. Since a lot of canon information says Bio armor, that essay is null but i am willing to accept the use of nanites with Bio armor thought...anyway take those Omega-X destroyers )


    As for the fleet size issue, makes more sense that all Military fleets have a larger ratio of non-capital ships then capital ships.


    Now, as for the Terran Alliance going conquering.... Sprayber, i know it will be hard, especially if the TAF goes after the Spartans.... but one point i made which rest proven without saying it is that, the Chironians and so on will be busy fighting among themselves The Spartans will be kept busy in other fronts. TAF will take advantage of that. The TAF itself is strickly a military base organization and technicly could be considered a seperate faction within Sol. Once war officially declared, the TAF will make sure no nonsence stuff is happening among the members while they completly reorganize the defences of Sol and integrate the members militaries. If a member military causes trouble, being counter productive, the TAF won't twice to blast them away or more justifiable actions.
    Since the TAF is a military organization, and when war start, TA politics won't effect them (meaning, members can't choose to boss TAF around concerning defence and so on for example, like the EC and InEn did alot)
    The Fleet Admiral knows why he is doing and he knows how costly wars can be, but he is confident the TAF is ready. He is not overconfident, neither does he underestimates. he is a Master Strategist and tactician....like Admiral Thrawn in starwars He doesn't have personal motives either...he is geared to the manifest destiny belief and he knows it won't become reality overnight. Anyway, because of the way he is and being the one who personally organize the TAF since its creation, TAF can be quite tough to beat, despite tech differences. So when i say it is hard to directly acquire intelligence on the TAF via espionage of any form, it is because of the several reasons i gave above. Now, after the TAF's first real ground war against the Morganites(which their troops there get to see first hand for the first time at the dicipline and so on, reminding of the Spartans ), Fleet Admiral Kerensky will see how good the TAF Marines are......which is a mix conventional warfare of Power Armored Marines, Hover Tanks, Siege Tanks, Fighter-Bombers, Goliath Walkers, etc....
    Don't forget they are Biometal made

    Another point i made, TAF will not simply use Force when they start Conquering out of all the factions in Sol, only the TAF as a strong Intelligence on various Chiron and so on factions...so they generally more about the Universe then rest of Sol.... they will be using Propaganda, Diplomacy, Probin, etc to acquire systems, especially some neutral independent ones.

    Anyway, the TAF will surprise many factions of their abilities not invincible, but just Tough and Smart.


    Grr, wish i could start writting more into TAF then the Pirates at the moment, lol. After exploring some Babylon 5 sites and so on, I need to redo the specs on the Terran Battlecruiser ...the backbone and mainstay of the TAF.. TAF Ships is mainly the BC, Carrier, Destroyers, Msl Frigates, Multi-Gun Frigates, Heavy Corvettes, and Scouts....a long with Starfury and Thunderbolt Fighters.

    -LMP

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    • LMP, nothing personal, really, no offence, but those -smileys, all going in a rhythm... I am going to have nightmares with big light green heads showing their tongues chasing me...

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      • LMP, Maria Sanchez would not like to be bossed around by anyone, whether it is EC, InEn or TA.

        One more day... one more day... and I'm gone... (for 12 days only though - d'oh!)
        ... This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality...
        ... Pain is an illusion...

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        • Hi folks,

          I'm constructing the G.H.E.'s webpage now. If you could, can you please post your sites down? I can't seem to find the
          Spartan Federation's web address, LMP's addres, or Kass' site.

          I want to have links to each of your sites respectively.

          My site will not be "image-intensive" right now cause I don't have any graphic programs. What pics I do have will mostly be eye-candy or ship pictures.
          Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
          Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
          *****Citizen of the Hive****
          "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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          • It is somewhat lacking in context at this time, but I have a week-long vacation starting in next weekend, so I'll probably update it then.
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            • Oh and remember to put your link so I can in turn link to it.
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              • So with all this talk about conquering stars systems, who is going the be the first poor sap to try to invade New Isreal?
                "I do think that it is important to realize that wars are ugly and vile and that there better be a damned good reason for getting involved in one. Because the price for somebody is going to be very, very high."

                David Weber

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                • Greetings from a newborn King...

                  Originally posted by Silence
                  So with all this talk about conquering stars systems, who is going the be the first poor sap to try to invade New Isreal?
                  Which reminds me, how about EC and TA finding out that the Soldiers of God attacked their Callisto blockade? That ought to get some action cooking.
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                  • Hey! Hey! Hey! Listen up!

                    My post was simply getting too big and it was still not done so I cut it in half, and posted that first part of it. The rest takes place a week later when the Morganites arrive on Saturn and a permanent treaty has been signed and work on a possible alliance begins. I post the part up to the Saturn diplomat's arrivals. It's OK, but my next post will be better.
                    Empire growing,
                    Pleasures flowing,
                    Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                    • Could we try and keep conquering to a minimum? I've only been writing Firaxis for a week and now I get the sinking feeling they're going to be occupied. Besides, I'm not so sure the Terrans, strengths acknowledged, would be quite so effective in long-term space warfare with larger, richer groups like Morgan Interstellar.
                      Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                      • Originally posted by Mr. President
                        Could we try and keep conquering to a minimum?
                        remember that the ultimate goal of the Alliance is to unite the humanity, whether by diplomacy or force.
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                        • Agreed Mr. President. We are getting ahead of ourselves!
                          Empire growing,
                          Pleasures flowing,
                          Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                          • Boy, what was in this space for the last three years, before I returned here, was so freakin' tame. I should have told them to take their dreams of conquering Firaxis and choke on them. Or worse.
                            Last edited by Mr. President; April 6, 2005, 02:11.
                            Everything changes, but nothing is truly lost.

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                            • Is it me, or is the Spartans starting to sound like the good guys in BAC ?


                              Anyway, the Terran leaders maybe good but don''t forget that those is postions of power in Sparta have been there for at least a 100-200 years. They are not novices at what they do. When you go up against a Spartan Admiral you can bet he or she was fomulating stratigy when that Terran's grandfather was born. And exactly how long do you think it will take the Chrion factions, maybe even the despot Yang, to figure out this superiorty complex that the Terrans have developed? The Spartans will not go down without ensuring that the Terrans feel the burn of Spartan energy scouring their beautiful homeworld. Deals can always be struck with the other Chiron factions, because with our longevity we have plenty of time to continue our old vendettas later.

                              mmmm, History Guy, wouldn't Earth make a wonderful mining planet for your industries?
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • Originally posted by Cybergod
                                LMP, Maria Sanchez would not like to be bossed around by anyone, whether it is EC, InEn or TA.

                                One more day... one more day... and I'm gone... (for 12 days only though - d'oh!)
                                Knew i forgot to say something... TAF will not expect much of Titan as they barely have any military... the only thing the TAF may bother the Titans is concerning Biotechnology... which if Titan cooperated and get into close relation with the TAF, which would make sense as the TAF will be the ones keeping EC from harassing Titan, which may result to more access to Biometal, if the TAF trusts Titan enough to allow Titanian biotech specialists to study Biometal.

                                Anyway, if TAF tells a member to do something during war time, with valid reasoning of course, during war time, they better listen else, Titan looses membership, if they ever got it or not by now, and TAF won't protect Titan from EC TAF would keep an eye on Titan anyway, as they aware of Titan's relationship with the Morganites... TAF Inetlligence doesn't know the details, but they know something is up and could easily guess it is something to do with the Morganite attack and how Titan declared Independence..... to coincedental for their taste


                                -LMP

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