Beyond Alpha Centauri:: Discussion Thread 2

[Frankychan]

Ladies-Gentlemen-and esteemed colleagues,

Let's not get overly upset about this. This is supposed to be a collaborative effort on all of our parts. Just because one author has a different idea of what is to be doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong. Remember, COMPROMISE!!! Some concessions have to be made, I for one would like Sol to become part of the G.H.E., but that won't happen.......yet.

Seriously, we should really come to a happy-medium. I just don't seeing ppl fight when they could be talking about it.

Just remember that the 'Thread-God' said that the Main
alien races should be a "back-drop". However, I think that they can be involved in each author's plot.

Let's say a faction, who's ultimate goal is to destroy an alien planet, deals with the human factions extensively. That means fighting with whoever in order to achieve their main goal. That faction does all kinds of things in order to obtain, let's say a new form of tech, to get their ultimate goal. That faction would also have a few brief skirmishes with the alien race that they want to destroy, but would remain ONLY skirmishes...

This is only a hypothetical theory into dealing with other human factions...(and don't worry, this isn't what Yang want's either )

Yang's true goal is much, much worse.

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by frankychan
Some concessions have to be made, I for one would like Sol to become part of the G.H.E., but that won't happen.......yet.:evilgrin

Yang's true goal is much, much worse.

*Maria Sanchez and her Constitutional Council take a huge sigh*

So that is your true interest?!? Well then we will resist with great force and ally with your enemies (Spartans & Morgan)! First because of your will to dominate and conquer others in most undemocratic ways, second for betraying humanity by collaborating with the Bree, and third for colaborating with our nemesis - the EC! You shall suffer for this outrage!

(don't take this seriously, at least not for the moment )

History, please could you do me a favour and post my diplomats arrival please? I seem to have a nasty throat infection and need [i]lots[/b] of rest so I am well before my trip. Otherwise I'd do something drastic if I have to stay in this rainy country called England...

BTW Mellian and Lonestar, please don't fight! You have already dragged your disagreements over several pages, COMPROMISE, as the Inhuman Monster says (no offence "Emperor" Yang ), and a compromise, although it might cause "worse" reputation if one backs down, is the best solution for all.

[Silence]

Sorry for not posting, since its Valentines Week and I have to work at the flower shop most of the day, hence why you havn't seen me.

Just considered that a 8th Beleving Fleet has just been reformed to be Solider of God 1st Fleet.

[Lonestar]

Hey Frankchan

The Protectorate's ultimate goal is to unite Humanity under one banner. You can't beat us to it!

[Frankychan]

It seems we have a little conflict of interests here...

Hmmm, how about this...

Lord Protector Ian and Emperor Yang divvy up the races in the galaxy. Yang has abandoned the 'uniting humanity' and has moved onto 'uniting species' under his banner. So that means humanity is just one of many potential candidates. We don't discriminate! We love all species equally...

And speaking of 'uniting humanity'...

Well, Emperor Yang and this "Queen" Maria Sanchez must sit down and have a discussion. I'm sure the two of us can come to an understanding

"Inhuman Monster" you say?

As Sheng-ji himself has said in his "Essay's on Mind and Matter",

Tyranny you say? How can you tyrannize someone who cannot feel pain?

(Don't worry Cybergod, I'm not taking it seriously...for now.)

[Lonestar]

After Humanity is United under the Protectorate Banner, I'm going to kill everyone else.

Nothing personal.

[History Guy]

Sure, Cybergod, we'd love an alliance with Queen M., just as long as Chairman Nutski, errr, Chairman Kooklet, whoops, I mean Chairman Yang, gag, I mean 'Emperor' Yang doesn't get too friendly with you guys! And hey, I'll write that post for ya!

After Humanity is United under the Protectorate Banner, I'm going to kill everyone else.

Great, Lonestar, when do you start?

Nothing personal.

OK, well that makes me happy.

[Lonestar]

Well, you know what they say...

"History is the fiction we invent to persuade ourselves that events are knowable and that life has order and direction. That's why events are always reinterpreted when values change. We need new versions of history to allow for our current prejudices."


and

"Those who control the present, control the past."

[Mr. President]

I've run into a bit of trouble regarding Beyond Alpha Centauri. Namely, I seem to have run out of main storylines. With the Bree relinquishing MI-35 and President Adams closing the Grand Temple on pain of deportation, I have almost nothing left to write about. I would like the Republic to stay out of Earth's affairs unless Morgan Interstellar is directly threatened.

So what's to be done? Take a break? Make up something new? Anybody feel like opening another subplot?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Mr. President
I've run into a bit of trouble regarding Beyond Alpha Centauri. Namely, I seem to have run out of main storylines. With the Bree relinquishing MI-35 and President Adams closing the Grand Temple on pain of deportation, I have almost nothing left to write about. I would like the Republic to stay out of Earth's affairs unless Morgan Interstellar is directly threatened.

So what's to be done? Take a break? Make up something new? Anybody feel like opening another subplot?

Mr. President: If I wasn't going away for awhile, I would say we could start another plot line. OR

You could write some stuff for one of the independent worlds. That might give you some room to be creative. There are some listed on the map, or you could make them up. It would be interesting to see their relationship with their larger neigbors. You might even put them between the Spartans and Hive or somewhere else. We could start something with the spartans if you like until i go away.

[Mr. President]

Originally posted by Sprayber
Mr. President: If I wasn't going away for awhile, I would say we could start another plot line. OR

You could write some stuff for one of the independent worlds. That might give you some room to be creative. There are some listed on the map, or you could make them up. It would be interesting to see their relationship with their larger neigbors. You might even put them between the Spartans and Hive or somewhere else. We could start something with the spartans if you like until i go away.

Cool ideas! Thanks! I might take up an independent planet for a little while. Thanks again, I never would have thought of that!

If it's OK, I might do one of the independent states near the Morgan-Drone-Spartan-Peacekeeper juncture like Firaxis. You could make a killing as a free port, but sitting there would probably get hot. I'll dream up some ideas and start writing.

[Frankychan]

Mr. President,

Why did you end the Drone investigation at the temple? I was looking forward to see what was to happen. Also, what is to become of our brief "war of words?" I hope that you aren't scared of the G.H.E. (just kidding)

Anyway,

Lonestar, now what? If you weren't going to post something for a while I was going to post up something.

Mellian,

Is a corvette smaller than a light frigate? I'm trying to find the right ship size for a crew of 15~30. Something really fast as well. What would be the proper classification of a ship with this size?

Ok, I've just signed up for a free homepage w/geocities. On that site I plan to post stuff about the G.H.E. It probably will not be image intensive because finding pics is a pain in the derriere. I'll let y'all know when I have something up.

[Sprayber]

Good deal Mr. President. Be sure and write up some kind of short history for the planet or system. That way everyone can sorta see what their relations should be. It dont have to be that inclusive, just major points of interests like what faction they came from or if they were a combination of factions.

[Mr. President]

Everybody's afraid of the GHE, Franky. (Well, almost everybody.) As for the Temple, I will pick that up again, but I need to think out the rest of the details. Since the Bree have melted away from the Fringe again, the fleet will withdraw somewhat, and leave Yasir to his tea.

[Mellian]

A Corvette is technicly smaller then a Frigate...... but both size types blurs when you consider Heavy Corvette and Light Frigate.

As for the "argument", I am not mad what gave you that impression? I am always calm and I am always into debates...but doesn't mean i mad. Lonestar challenge the points i made for the Proginators in the BAC, and i replied

Can't exactly compromise the Proginators...and prefer we don't get into details about them.... let them be a big alien force at the edge of explored space that could at anytime start invading space if they ever find out about the Manifolds...or acquired convincing evidence that one world is a Manifold, but ends up not being one

Anyway, BAC is to be focus on Humanity and have the major aliens in the background. If we start making a personal story of a human faction attacking and whatever an alien world, it would simply attract their attention to humanity, which we don't want that so have to make up some good reason why your human faction bothers to even invade an alien world.

So far, some of the major races surrounding human space... not completly around please.... is the Proginators, Gorn, Bree and now the Dosi, which is slightly further and currently only the Protectorate as contact.


President, if your running out of ideas... what about problems from the Pirates, hmm? Originally, when i had the time, which i don't now, is introduce the Pirates during a hijacking of a Drone Merchant Cruiser which was heading to shipyard in Spartan space, bringing a shipment of Worker Droids or something like that....since Drones into robotics, no? especially in Industrial Automation...and used a lot in Drone Ship Yards and so on?
Two Pirate clans will be involved..... Kane's Wolverines and the Novans. after capturing the Merchant Cruiser, a or some SPartan shows up after a distress call....then Novans quickly try to activate the ships FTL Drive to a rendezvous point just outside of the system....just went they thought they succeeded and got the ship intact, despite some critical damage, a Spartan ship, wishfully a Warlock , jumps in puisuit, following the Pirate's jump route.... the Novans thought they were done for until another Warlock from a another direction appeared....making their feelings worse...but quickly realized that it was the Impossible, the Warlock captured by the Wolverines some years back, when it started firing at the Spartan Warlock and Kane sending a quick message "Need some help?" visually identifying the ships Escorting the Warlock as Wolverine Strike Cruisers.

Reason for the acquiring Worker Droids.... Kane wanted to unite the Pirates...atleast have the Clans cooperate together anyway.. to form the Pirate Empire..... while working towards that goal, he realize the lack of manpower for the amount of ships he is getting built at some hidden shipyards. So thinking to get Drones' androids and try to copy the technology and adapting it to other minor techs acquire from factions and from the Hiiagarans 10-15 years back after a long Wolverine expidition deep in unknown space, by the advice of the Fraal's..... which made contact with their Expedition towards human space. Both don't why the Fraal told them to meet, but both the Wolverines and the Hiagarans took advantage of it by learning about each other and trading some techs...no major ones.


Anyway, how about it? may be the final annoyance to the Drones (tired of the Pirates more daring missions against the Drones for whatever in the last several years) and Spartans (loosing another Warlock to the Pirates...which was atleast destroyed then captured this time, or retreated, but thats un-spartan like ...is another insult to the Spartans pride and so on)


Anyway, what i see for Human space is the beginning of a all out instellar war between the Humans factions and so on. not get involve, but still a lot of warfare that may effect everyone. TAF pushs the Morganites out of Sol, Council gives them the go ahead... TAF smarts up the Alliance Members Fleets, especially the Coalition and prepare to conquer the Morganites and whoever, starting with the worlds close to Sol....except for Alpha Centauri. Morganites, with some help from Spartans and maybe the Drones, succeed keep the TAF back with losses, but they get distracted by other matters...... like the Pirates, Hive and so on......

So the CHironians will have problems indeed While the Terrans slowly system after system near Sol, the Chiron factions are busy fight among themselves TAF will avoid getting into conflict with the Peacekeepers, Cyborgs, University and Gaians for now.... will only be the use of Force, but TAF will use propaganda, espionage, diplomacy and etc to acquire systems...... and may absorb Neutral systems too, who join the Alliance as Members.. better to be a member then the Conquered that is my guess in the long run anyway.......

further down then that, while the INstellar Human Wars go ats its height, one or more major alien notices and decide to take advantage of that.... thinking of the Proginators finally properlly take a look and somehow find out about the Manifolds.... so start pushing into Human Space, take systems after systems while moving towards the Chiron and maybe Tau Ceti(which Sol will be in the way)...... so TAF sees the problem and ask for Truce, saying we need to unite as a Race to fight off the Proginators....

hmmm, wonder how the Proginators found out about the Manifolds...... Lonestar's silly proto-mind race? thats long run ideas anyway.............

Quickly after the Proginator War, or during the end of it, Terrans gets sneaky and annexes some more systems from the factions, but in a sneaky non-forceful way May have a huge Battle for Chiron.. maybe a Battle for Sol too..........or when the Liberate the systems taken by the Proginators, but keep them to themselves? Terran Alliance territory would double

Proginators advance started by the Usurpers, but followed by the Caretakers and maybe a new Proginator faction or two.... if the Proginators were united, they could easilly swoop threw Human space en mass with their advance ships... but they fight among themselves along the way... advance may start to stop and slowly retreat back into Proginator space after a huge battle in alpha Centauri.... where the Proginators for the first time temporally worked together..... due to fighting among themselves along the way as well.....major attacks against each back in their space or/and the Gorn or/and Bree taking advantage of it by invading into Proginator space.


Anyway, ideas and vision

-LMP