Beyond Alpha Centauri:: Discussion Thread 2

[Cybergod]

Originally posted by frankychan
Excuse me for my typing errors, I have been partying tonite rather heavily and am pretty "partied out", if you know what I mean...(i.e. I'm pretty hammered right now)

And me myself also had just way too many [/i]Bacardi Breezers[i]! But I'm okay now - just a slight headache...

[Cybergod]

And I'm a prince.... Well, I already was, until Apolyton banned me for a week for swearing... But that won't happen again.

Morgan, will Sym have special quaters and "contacts" at Horizon Aida? I am assuming that he will spy on the EC and the Hive from Titan...

[History Guy]

Well, I've sent another round of diplomatic maneuvres! Morgan, have fun...

Sure, OK, Cyber. As soon as old Vera gets over here, we'll take Mrs. Rabinowitch, Mr. Gabriel Alands, and Mr. Sym, stuff them in a little ship, and toss them as fast as possible over to Saturn.

Well History Guy, I do like your viewpoint on the Hive. I like it when other factions describe the Hive Empire. I'm looking forward reading about Mr. Sym's adventure's.

You don't mind the fact that I portrayed it as being down on Chiron way back when, do you? 'Cause whenever I play the game (and I'm not playing The Human Hive, or as I like to do it--- The Human Stye), the Hive is down!!

As for Mr. Sym, you will no doubt find him useful. I'll keep him around for a while, until you guys have enough info, then I'll kill him off in some neat fashion...any suggestions?

Anyway, Minister Ehud and Spymaster Shirlak have an excellent plot waiting for the Morganites.

Yeah, OK, but now we are just waiting for the Hive to do something sneaky, due to Mr. Delbar intercepting that message. (Mr. Delbar, Lord love him...finally did in that trashcan!)

Morgan, will Sym have special quaters and "contacts" at Horizon Aida? I am assuming that he will spy on the EC and the Hive from Titan...

Cybergod, yes, he shall. Contacts who give him information, and then want something for it...heh heh. Anyway, Mr. Sym is gathering info for the Hive, but don't worry, he shan't be spying on the Saturn Kingdom in the least, as he does not give the Terrans info, as he still is just a little patriotic in the sense that he has no respect for the Terrans, whereas he does for the Hive.

Kassiopeia, Mein Pal, perhaps you had better launch your counterattack on Callisto now before the Morganite transports arrive to get Marmion out.

[Mellian]

Lonestar

Sure not nescessarilly, but i won`t allow any humans have Shadow like ships, even if you change the color and make them more cheery. Shadows is an ancient old race with enough time to develop their nanotechnology to very high and impressive levels. Protectorate doesn`t have that time to do that and your not going to get such technology from your "graveyard". also need a high understanding of Nanotechnology to be able to make use of such damaged and ruin gizmos you find at that graveyard. Protectorate as a tech lead, sure... but not several 1000 years worth like the Shadows had.

Nanotechnology, Biotechnology, Cybernetics, etc are Fields

Nanometallurgy, Pulse Cannons, Chaos/Disruptors, tractor beams, ramscoops, FTL, etc are Application develop from those Fields. The more research you do in those Fields, the more wonderful applications you can make.

Yes, i am using the Master of Orion 3 research concept stated on their site and at the MOO3 threads by Stormhound... but they do make a lot of sense.

So, for BAC, Nanotech Hulls are possible with the use of Nanometallurgy and Nanoconstruction... not ships completly made of nanites.

As for that race your making... didn`t i say Proginators are Xenophobic with good reason, unless they are primitives they can use as slaves? or Battle Thralls, without giving them advance proginator technology?


As for Biometal...

Yes, Biometal is in a way "play doh" which you can sort of program in various shape and so on. But you can also "program" Biometal to be as strong as Admantium or flexible as rubber.... if you know the chemical and molecular knowledge of such things... Biometal made stuff is also quite easy to repair, "or heal" The Scions use Nanotechnology to mold the Biometal into whatever they need.... Scions figured out to reproduce the stuff, as long as they have spare Biometal samples, which they always do. took them few centuries to figure that out just to say too. Scions also learn how to basicly morph units or whatever into other things, with the use of nanotechnology and the knowledge how to program Biometal... So their ships could be very flexible and adapt to whatever situation. With their improves, they can adapt as quickly as the Borg, in a Scion like way Since Scions are merge to Biometal, and they do have an unkenny knowledge to the stuff and can easilly have MMI links to it.
Biometal is mysterious... and only the Scions is generally have the stuff and have the most understanding, figure out new ways to use the stuff. Of course, the Fraal knows the origins of Biometal and generally use some version of Biometal for their ships, but do not reveal anything. They prefer that teh races figure it out for themselves.. because when they do, generally means they are ready for it... unless they find some artifacts or ruins where they acquire a advance tech... or some advance race giving a inferior race the tech... which robs a Species a chance to propperlly be ready for it as a society and etc....

Corrections

Non-Scions are not allowed on the Dark Planet...maybe except the Fraal.....


The Fraal...

was about to write some stuff about the Fraal, but someone needs the computer, grr...

-LMP

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Mellian
Lonestar


As for that race your making... didn`t i say Proginators are Xenophobic with good reason, unless they are primitives they can use as slaves? or Battle Thralls, without giving them advance proginator technology?

The short discription of the Hferhin.

These race of tall, craggy humanoids live on the Rim Wolrd of Harresssh(with 3 "s"). There is evidence that the ancient race that created the Manifolds (I'm not convinced it was the Progenitors) worked on Harresssh, creating a proto-planet mind.

The Hferhin evolved along with this ultra-primative neural network (which was limited to one continent) and was able to use the network to rapidly advance their technology.

The Usurpers arrived over Harressh about 1500 years ago, about the time of the last great Progenitor Civil War, looking for allies, Manifolds, etc. After promising the Hferhin a hand in Godhood, the Hferhin Entire voted to ally with the Usurpers, and they have been with them ever since.

The Hferhin have the unique ability to tap directly into a Planetmind, as a result of their evolution. All Hferhin on the Usurper ship down over Chiron were killed.

The Hferhin have also become blood enemies with the Dosi, as the Dosi are seen as (incorrectly) holding a Manifold and not shareing the spoils.

[Sprayber]

****Alien Backdrop****

Just to make sure everyone remembers about the alien races.

They are there mainly for back story. If we start bringing in the aliens too much then the humans are not going to be able to compete.


Alien Ruins Everyone please remember not to rely too much on these. There are artifacts and ruins all over the galaxy. But remember, just because you find something doesn't mean you will be able to find out how it works and can automaticaly be able to build more. If 17th century men found an automobile that went back in time they may eventually be able to get in it and drive somewhere. but unless they can find a way to drill for oil and refine it they won't be able to use it for long. If they were somehow able to find some kind of fuel to run it longer, they still couldn't build more. They might be able to improvise parts, but could never build one that was as good as the originial. Nowjust imagine if a cave man found a car. you kind of see the difficulties. Humans could take something apart and use what they learned from the indidual parts and apply some principles to their own ships and own buildings, but would be almost impossible to produce the exact same thing. Now humans finding other human tech and copying is a little different. but just kind o fbe conservative about what you can learn about alien tech.


Main Ancient races

Fraal
Bree
Gorn
Uv Watt (Tarn)
Progenators

Other Primative Races (Mainly planet bound)

You can talk about alien races if you want. Franky has incorporated them into the GHE very well. But the main alien races have their own agenda and use the humans only when it benifits them. They will not just give anything away unless they get something in return, and then your gonna get stuff that they consider low tech. Main races can't be used to attack other human factions(except in small type skirmishs) Example. The Bree will not attack the Spartans or Drones with any significant fleet. they are mostely tied up with the Gorn. Also the Gorn will not attack the Hive with any significant fleet unless they think that the Bree are there. Now later on we may all decide to change that to add an exciting plot to the story. But right now, lets concentrate on the human factions.

Always remember that so far the aliens have not mounted any real attack on the humans.

The Bree have tested the human systems for weakness before, maybe in an attempt to secure other angles of attacks against the Gorn. But have not seriously attempted an invasion of any human faction.

The Progenators have been busy with their civil war for far too long to care about humans. The war on Chiron was isolated and extreamly unimportant to the over all upsurper and caretaker civilizations. humans are not important to them. unless they get in their way.

The Gorn are conservative. They do not really want to seek human allies becuase the humans are divided too much for their tastes. They do notice who is fighting the Bree and who is not though. Their main contact with humans occurs by chance and they usually just go on without much comment.

The Uv Watt(tarn) very reclusive but will help stranded ships. they stick to themselves and don't interfere. they look somewhat human with maybe small facial differences. they are near the believers and but don't contact them much.

Fraal. Mellian has described them often.


Technology wise the this is how they break down.

Fraal (A little more advanced then the rest. they have specialized in certan areas.)

Bree and Gorn- (about the same level. they have been at war for so long that they have nearly centered their societies around the ongoing war. technology is not seen as good for the society but as good for the war effort. There are lulls in the fighting used for repositioning and replenishment of troops and ships. the Fraal were already advanced when the Bree and Gorn first took to the stars)

Progenetors. They were at one time on par with the Fraal (mabye even sligtly more advanced) but they lost most of their tech and decended into civil war. they are now obsessed with unlocking their past and regaining their glory. Then they will set out to settle old scores. most races leave them alone to fight it out and kill each other.

Uv Watt(tarn) least advanced of the ancient races but sill higher than humans. they survive by keeping to theirselves. they don't bring attention to their planets. the other races ignore them because they have nothing that can be of use to their agendas.


Their may be a few servant races around to the Bree and Gorn or Progenators. But they shouldn't be too widespread. most other races are primitive and cannot leave their planet.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Frankychan
Nah Kass,
Actually, I think that what you've done has actually improved the Hive storyline. I should be thanking you

Ok, but I'll try to avoid screwing up from now on.

Originally posted by History Guy
Kassiopeia, Mein Pal, perhaps you had better launch your counterattack on Callisto now before the Morganite transports arrive to get Marmion out.

Roger that. Off to write...

[Frankychan]

Ok people I'm back after my rest and recuperation,

Lonestar,

I like how you name Hive Prime the "Throneworld"....sounds catchy. (Sorry, but I'm being a little narcissistic ) However, I do find it troubling that the Protectorate would know anything about Hive space.

I kind of wanted Hive space unknown to everyone except me. Could we rather them say "regions" instead of "systems"? That way it sounds vague, but at the same time the Protectorate has a general idea of where the Throneworld is. (I really like that )

I do not want to have anyone know where Hive Prime is right now (considering Spartan's are looking for it) but the message can be relayed to the Throneworld.

On to my 'Project Mindbend', why do you want to research this? Maybe we can make a compromise here. I really want diplomatic channels between our two empires.

Lastly, is it alright if I break the jamming and send a distress?

Originally posted by History Guy You don't mind the fact that I portrayed it as being down on Chiron way back when, do you? 'Cause whenever I play the game (and I'm not playing The Human Hive, or as I like to do it--- The Human Stye), the Hive is down!!

Nah, I don't mind. I think it fits in well with my timeline. With the war goinging badly against the Chironian factions at that time (except the Spartans who were our "ally" at the time), the fact that we left Chiron on bad terms sets the mood!

As for our Morganite plot, don't worry. I'll consult with you before posting anything to make sure that it is ok.

Do you mean how Mr. Sym should die, History?


Ok, I think I've talked long enough...now, to type.

[Lonestar]

Alrighty Frankychan, I've sent the transmission. Incidently, LP Ian looks like This on the vid of message.

[Frankychan]

K, Lonestar,

Can you say what the message contains? Or do you want me to just improvise?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by frankychan
K, Lonestar,

Can you say what the message contains? Or do you want me to just improvise?

Check the BAC thread dude...

[Frankychan]

Sorry, I didn't refresh the page.

Okay, gonna write something up tonite. This should be interesting...

[History Guy]

Cyber, should I write the post of Vera's arrival and the subsequent boarding of the ships by Morgan dignitaries, or should you?

As for our Morganite plot, don't worry. I'll consult with you before posting anything to make sure that it is ok.

OK, Franky sounds good. Morgan may have something forming from under his sleeve as well. And hey, yeah, I'm still trying to come up with a neat death scene for Mr. Sym.

Alrighty Frankychan, I've sent the transmission. Incidently, LP Ian looks like This on the vid of message.

Hmmm...good Lord! I wonder if Yang looks like the Penguine on the vid screen!!

And hey, incidentally, has anyone ever written some fiction piece for the Planet Cult? I have seen little fiction written about Cha Dawn, Domai, and Svensgaard, and alot on the Probe guys, and a bit on the aliens and the Consciousness.

[Cybergod]

History Guy, feel free to write about Vera's arrival - make up names if needed but Vera Sofia must stay the same - a short, black haired, brown eyed Saturnian Ambassador of Bulgarian-origin.




BTW EVERYONE...

I AM GOING ON A SHORT BREAK TO MY COUNTRY FROM 17th OF FEBRUARY TO 1st MARCH SO I AM LEAVING KASS, MELLIAN AND HISTORY TO REGULATE THE FACTION WHILE I AM GONE FOR 12 DAYS...

BTW I have 6 days left, so I will still post something...

[Frankychan]

Well Cybergod,

You take it easy and we'll see ya when you come back!

History Guy,

Mr. President is the author for the Drone's. They are the Free Drone Republic now under President Kristy Adams.

As for the other factions, I don't think anyone has claimed them.