Beyond Alpha Centauri:: Discussion Thread 2

[Frankychan]

Hey Lonestar!

First you ask me to reply to you, but when I post asking you what next, you decide to ignore me! Nah, I'm not upset, just jerking your chain.

Anyway,

For the Gaians. Since I seem to be the person who has "intimate" contact with the Star Children of Gaia (if you could call it as intimate), the Gaian Federation is aligned with Caretakers, not Usurpers. However, since Alynzia is an off-again/on-again author, I think it would be best to pm her with any questions.

So....what, Lonestar? Can we collaborate on our confrontation, man? Let's discuss what should happen next. Oh, well...gonna do a follow-up later.

[Cybergod]

Mellian, things seem much clearer now! There was never a full explanation about the Scions (or at least one that I read anyway ).

Anyways, I never said 36! If you read my post carefully:

I wasn't planning to create big Organic ships en masse straight away! We currently have about 26 Organic ships which are not huge ships (since constructing huge Organic ships would require lots of infrastructure, which we seriously lack and will start rebuilding after the succession) but I don't think that you can call them "harmless" either.

BTW don't worry about the organic ships, they are quite small and mobile actually.

Anyways, I meant to say that the Saturn Kingdom has very low knowledge of Biometal but Dr. Tanaka (Research Minister) will, in my next post, ask the Queen to make contacts with them (to which she'll say "NOT NOW! We are in the middle of a war!" ). It's organic ships, not biometal (which I am still not clear what the hell it is ).

History Guy, expect my post pretty soon - we'll send one diplomatic ship, carrying our diplomatic teams, and one small lightly armed escourt. Both ships will enter FTL to get to Morgan Interstellar and will carry your diplomats back to Titan.

[Mellian]

Correction

Scions will NOT consider inferior technology, money of anykind, resources and etc as a good reason why they should speak to the Titanians... since they don't need the stuff. Scion technology could bring the TA up to par with the Chironians, probably just as advance or further as/then the Protectorate. Hey, Scions specializes in Nanotechnology and Biometal as their technological specialties....

Lonestar

I know about nanotechnology and the idea that the Shadows ship are actually nanoships.... but it is very advance Nanotechnology, which i won't allow the Protectorate to have..... Nanotechnology is just a Field, not a complete tech by itself.... the further up that field, the more wonders and actual Techs you can develop.

So i connect Nanotech hulls to Nanometallurgy and Nanoconstruction... not the superiorilly advance shadows. If people want, we could have the Shadows and the Vorlons in the galaxy, just that the Fraal, an ancient old race themselves, this part of the galaxy under their protection.... so Shadows or Vorlons get to play with humanity

anyway, got to go.... will find some text on Biometal....and maybe Organic armor and so on..

-LMP

[History Guy]

Sounds OK to me, Cybergod.

I'll be posting something later today as a response to the Soldier of God raid.

[Cybergod]

I have just posted! Please feel welcome to comment Morgan!

Mellian, what would the Scions accept to form some kind of good relations with the Saturn Kingdom?

[Mellian]

Correction

grrr, dislike forgetting to put NOT and CAN'T in some sentences, grrr
with the Fraal in this part of the galaxy, where they humanity i their area of space... Shadows and Vorlons wouldn't be able to play with humanity.

Cybergod

Like i said, the Scions do not trust the rest of humanity with good reason. They are also Pacifists...but still capable to wage war if needed... So figure out a reason why the Scions should trust the Titanians... and then try to make it sincere then just wanting to have access to Biometal and other Scion technology. Just to say, they do keep themselves of events in Sol and out. Oh, and there is no Scion Leader you can contact.... just a Council, a Conclave..... equally and fairly representing the whole society. And if relations do ever happen, they will simply assign someone that will specificly deal with Titan, and who the Titan would contact....

And do keep the TAF factor in mind... they are keeping a watch on the Scions.. not because the TAF doesn't trust them, just doesn't trust the rest of Sol and there is no non-human on Dark Planet and Scions will never allow any... so the further the TAF ever get is a ship in high orbit of Dark Planet.

compatible relations i can see, with some work to go pass the Scions' distrust of rest of humanity....

Scions and Gaians
Scions and Cyborgs

thats it reallly.... but anyone can try... but there is factions the Scions distrust the most, like the Coalition, Combine, InEn, Morganites and etc...

Scions have occasional friendly contact with the Fraal too.... and no Scions ships as ever left Sol.... except back at the old secret Scion War, where they lost some of their people at that Alien system far far away... not knowing what happens to them..... to far to make any difference to BAC.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Mellian


the 72 Battle Squadrons is okay....

Come to think of it, the numbers are now much more easy to crunch.

but not all Battleships and Dreadnoughts thought!

There are limits to megalomanicy. Of course not! Destroyers a little, Cruisers, mainly Frigates and Corvettes.

Capital Ships go from Cruiser and up.... and majority of those ships better be Corvettes/Frigates to Cruisers..... also, what kind of weapons are they using....mainly starting to use Pulse Cannons, Missiles and so on? Plasma Cannons, the heavy capital ship hitters, can also be use....but not effective against smaller and higher maneuverable ships oh, and Gauss Cannons?

Of course - there are only two or three Battleships or a carrier in a Battle Squadron, and rarely a Dreadnaught.

Cybergod: From my limited experience of Battlezone, it is a durable alloy that can be molded as easily as, say, Play-Doh, at least compared to other normal metals like adamantium or the other hi-tech alloys that are used for the ablative armour in CSN ships.
You can "program" it - throw a chunk of it in a suitable factory, and you can have anything from a bunch of infantry armours to a tank in a little amount of time.
But there's probably much more, and I am no specialist.

[Frankychan]

Ok, until I wait for Lonestar let me address some stuff...

Kass-

I'm sorry if I haven't posted the Hive response to your message yet. Right now I'm trying to develop the plot between the G.H.E. and the Human Protectorate. Rest assured, I will post our reply soon.

Cybergod-

I apologize to you as well. I haven't really addressed your revolution formally yet. Don't worry, I'll get to that as well. And from the Hive viewpoint, your independence is actually bigger than you think...much bigger to Yang's goal (but I'll keep that a secret for now).

History Guy-

If your wondering why the Hive hasn't spoken of Morgan recently, just be patient. Minister Ehud is cooking up something brilliant for Nwabudike and those "capitalist pigs".

-"everything is happening as I have forseen it..."

Silence-

600k B-Bills? I guess that sounds fair...plus, I'm getting a little more bonus ships.

Man, Emperor Yang has his hands in a lot of things!

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by frankychan
Kass-

I'm sorry if I haven't posted the Hive response to your message yet. Right now I'm trying to develop the plot between the G.H.E. and the Human Protectorate. Rest assured, I will post our reply soon.

I appreciate your apology, but none is needed. I should be apologising here, for the utter mishap I had with the message from GHE.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by kassiopeia


I appreciate your apology, but none is needed. I should be apologising here, for the utter mishap I had with the message from GHE.

actually, it may prove to be more interesting this way.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by frankychan
Hey Lonestar!

First you ask me to reply to you, but when I post asking you what next, you decide to ignore me! Nah, I'm not upset, just jerking your chain.

:: Is dragged across the deck by chain::


Whoa!

well, sorry. I was thinking about having LP Ian have a direct broadcast to "The Three most probable locations of the Hive Throneworld". Thoughts?


LMP

So i connect Nanotech hulls to Nanometallurgy and Nanoconstruction... not the superiorilly advance shadows. If people want, we could have the Shadows and the Vorlons in the galaxy, just that the Fraal, an ancient old race themselves, this part of the galaxy under their protection.... so Shadows or Vorlons get to play with humanity

Not necessary, although over the next few weeks I'm going to build the Hferhin as a Drakh-like ally of the Usurpers.

[Frankychan]

Nah Kass,

Actually, I think that what you've done has actually improved the Hive storyline. I should be thanking you.

The Terran broadcast makes things more complicated and interesting now.

[History Guy]

OK, excuse the fact that I posted twice in a row in the story thread, and that I didn't simply edit my second post into the first post.

Anyway, as for the post I just did concerning the Hive message, don't worry about the story content quality, as this shall definantly not be the norm for most of my posts!

Franky, Well, Minister Ehud may well hear from our friend Sym soon, as he's been collecting information. In my next post (when my guys finally get to Saturn Kingdom) we shall see him and how he works. Trust me, he is not a nice guy. Almost as bad as Abdullah Ehud.

[Cybergod]

Well, I've sent another round of diplomatic maneuvres! Morgan, have fun...

[Frankychan]

Well then,

Excuse me for my typing errors, I have been partying tonite rather heavily and am pretty "partied out", if you know what I mean...(i.e. I'm pretty hammered right now)

Well History Guy, I do like your viewpoint on the Hive. I like it when other factions describe the Hive Empire. I'm looking forward reading about Mr. Sym's adventure's.

As Sprayber has said, the message does indeed open up new opportunities for the plot. (Did I spell that right?) Anyway, Minister Ehud and Spymaster Shirlak have an excellent plot waiting for the Morganites.

Lonestar,

I like your idea of sending a message to Hive space. This may be the first contact between the Human Protectorate and the G.H.E. (a wonderous relationship at that). I am full for you sending a message into Hive territory. So long as you do not destroy our spacestation...