Beyond Alpha Centauri: Discussion Thread

[History Guy]

By the way, Kassiopeia, hadn't we better start planning the fight of Callisto, and the attempts to stop the (fake) transport? It is coming up in my next post.

[Frankychan]

Kass,

Please forgive my forgetfulness but I forgot which Sol System factions you are doing. If you can, please tell me.

Well, I hope my newest post helps clarify how the G.H.E. came into "contact" with the Sol System. I kind of want to "open-up" the Hive/InEn~Terran Alliance relationship. I've come up with, at least to myself, an impressive plot for the Greater Hive Empire.

Sprayber,

Do you have anything planned for Cyan for right now? Cause I've thought of something that may be pretty complex but hopefully impressive.

BTW------->I thought the Hive was the only one w/Cloak Technology
That's alright though cause everyone knows that Hive Cloak technology is the bestest

Happy New Year Everyone!

[Frankychan]

Sorry I forgot to mention one last thing,

HistoryGuy-I like how you demonized Yang Just had to mention that! I thought no one caught me making subtle jabs at Morgan but I guess you caught it! Good Job

[Sprayber]

Quick word on cloaking tech. lets not have it too good just yet. lets keep it kind of crude. Hive would have better devices since they invested a lot more time testing it. Maybe keep it to larger vessels or specialized vessels. also a cloak device would be a very big energy comsuming item, so weapons and engine performance would suffer. Im just trying to level everyone out. Not being picky, that's LMP's role here I'm just taking over his duties while he is gone. lol

Originally posted by frankychan
Sprayber,

Do you have anything planned for Cyan for right now? Cause I've thought of something that may be pretty complex but hopefully impressive.

Right now I'm trying to define her role. She is currently being held in a cryo cell. Kessel is debating on if he should use her against the Hive or maybe InEn if that is necessary. She is difficult to handle and unpredictable. Not good combinations for a Spartan leader to look for in his subornates.

some facts to keep in mind

1 She is in cryo cell right now

2 she was put there for her role in killing the Spartan overseer(governor) of new calodon

3 She and Kessel has had a past relationship together. this is why she wasn't shot on the spot by santiago.

4 she isn't a traitor, but she hates Santiago, and most of the command structure. her feelings for Kessel are unknown or unpredictiable.

5 She is half gaian, half spartan. her mother was gaian but she was raised in sparta while on chiron.

6 she is unbalanced. she can be kind and sweet to some people and very brutal to others.

7. she has extensive knowledge of killing methods and is never shy about using them. she used to be a spartan probe operative with expertise in assinations and general bloody mayham(to borrow a quote from Michael Collins)

what do you have in mind?

[Frankychan]

thanks Sprayber for enlightening me on Cyan's situation.
Well, to just throw this out. Later on (like in the far future) I would like Cyan to make it to the Hive homeworld somehow and encounter either Shirlak or Emperor Yang himself. I'll pm you when I can clarify my thoughts.

Thanks though.

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by History Guy
By the way, Kassiopeia, hadn't we better start planning the fight of Callisto, and the attempts to stop the (fake) transport? It is coming up in my next post.

Yup, you're right.

Now, since the Threadgod has deemed the use of cloaking devices in this situation as questionable ( ) I am willful, however, to allow some "holes" in the Sol system scanner arrays.

My idea: Let's entwine this with Cybergod's (I use the bold text to draw his attention) Titan situation. The Nova Saturna supplies the Morganites with information extracted from the InEn archives - using the keycodes from Moon -, regarding defense of Jovian InEn holdings. The InEn does the scanner work of that area itself, and since their scanners do not cover all the region all the time, it is possible to slip in trough the radar coverage, if they know where and when to fly in
.
Whilst the main convoy is slipping trough the scanners, the fake convoy starts approaching Callisto from a different direction, making sure it is detected. The fake convoy is engaged, and the real one makes it through to attack Callisto. They succeed, as InEn defense fails since most of their ships are at the other side of Jupiter with the fake ship, and Coalition refuses to intervene until it's people are attacked, which is soon arranged as the Morganites invade the moon itself.
Since trying to get back to Pollux or where ever the ships are from would be suicide, they stand ground, and a siege is formed, with the Coalition providing support for InEn, as Callisto was it's territory.

Of course, at this time, when the Coalition is mocking about in Jupiter region, the Titanians revolt, using equipment the Morganites sent in a couple of disguised trade ships or whatnot, in exchange of the information that helped them penetrate Callisto. That way, the Nova Saturna gets what it wants - An independent Titan, which the EC can not retake as quickly as it could because of Callisto.

Now, then the situation would be this:

Terran Council gets two matters to handle - The Titan declaration of independence and application to TA membership, attempting to avoid Earth retribution - and the Morganites attacking Callisto, and thus Coalition and Interplanetary Enterprises.

So, what do you think, History Guy and Cybergod? Before we get to details, let's sort the main storyline first.

Frankychan, as you have probably already deduced, if you have read the plan above, I control Interplanetary Enterprises and the Coalition of Earth (or Earth Coalition).

[Frankychan]

thanks Kass.

Also thank's to Sprayber for pointing out the fact that the Hive would have better stealth/cloak technology.

Speaking of stealth/cloak tech-

Most cloak tech is equipped to scout ships, carriers (because Hive carriers use stealth and secrecy instead of weaponry) and some Battleships...and the flagship of the Hive.

As for others-spy satellites, and very limited buildings.

To counteract the stealth/cloak tech we possess, I propose that we (the Hive) have less devastating offensive weaponry. For instance, instead of chaos weaponry, the Hive uses impact weaponry.

What do you all think?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by frankychan
thanks Kass.

Also thank's to Sprayber for pointing out the fact that the Hive would have better stealth/cloak technology.

Speaking of stealth/cloak tech-

Most cloak tech is equipped to scout ships, carriers (because Hive carriers use stealth and secrecy instead of weaponry) and some Battleships...and the flagship of the Hive.

As for others-spy satellites, and very limited buildings.

To counteract the stealth/cloak tech we possess, I propose that we (the Hive) have less devastating offensive weaponry. For instance, instead of chaos weaponry, the Hive uses impact weaponry.

What do you all think?

I just mean that the cloaking tech presents a major power drain on power aboard a ship. small ships are perfect for cloaking devices. The general rule on is the larger the object being cloaked, the more power that will be required.


wow. first post in days.

[Frankychan]

sounds good...

Ok, how 'bout this,

Instead of all that other mumbo-jumbo I've just spewed, how about

1. Scout ships and spec-ops ships have cloak

2. Satellites have cloak.

3. Some self-defense military "thingies"...

Is that kewl? Sorry, don't wanna piss anyone off sir, just wanna make the Hive equal----->even though we win in the end! (just kidding)

Anyway, Happy New Year everyone!!!!

Woooo!

[Sprayber]

The whole last page of this thread has been lost. If you post anything since the 1 you need to post if again if it was important.





Either that or I have lost my mind and just imagined the last four days.

[Cybergod]

::wakes up after days in the cryo chamber - the duration when Apolyton was down::

::gives a loud cry and flexes his frozen muscles::

Ah, finally! The forum is up again!

Kass, you have drawn my attention and I like the idea! But when Titan declares independence, Rhea does aswell - they are the same people although there are only couple of 100,000 living on Rhea, while Titan has aprox. 12,000,000.

So this means that I have to write again , and I was getting all lazy with Christmass and all...

[History Guy]

Ah! The RETURN TO NORMALCY!!

Well, Kassiopeia, in response, how's this? It sounds all rather good to me. We shall sneek in around your scanners with the real guys and put the fake boys in the area in which they can be easily spotted. Thus when you send out your guys to shoot it (and it's escorts) down, our men shall, in actuality, be landing, knocking out sensor arrays, and taking over a certain moon of Jupiter. Would you like to do the post on th attack on the fake transport? The Nova Saturna story fits in very well. As for my attack, we shall hold the moon, but shall have to undergo several weeks (or months) of siege. The man I'm sending in is a good soldier, General Henry Marmion, a son-in-law of General Marchand himself. The guys shall be 1st Corps, about 20,000 men in two divisions, divided into 2 brigades per division, commanded each by a Brigadier. Each brigade is made up of 2 regiments. These are the elite of Morgan's army, and he plans to use them as the first wave, but anything more would have to be a volunteer army. Should I create some InEn characters on Callisto? Such as Colonel in charge of the moon's defense? Or the Governor and his Adjutant? I would prefer if you did so in your first post. I was thinking that we would capture the Governor alive and try to use him as a bargaining chip or something. Anyway, our shock troops will soon visit a moon near you!

Franky, Thanks for the compliment. I did see your jabs at poor old CEO Morgan, so I decided to do some at poor old Sheng-ji Yang.

[Sprayber]

History Guy: Just send me whatever you want put on the page and I will get right to it.


I'll repost this since it was lost. Take a look at this page of spartan ships and tell me if it would be cool if the Spartans were to loan the use of them for your Sol operations. the only catch would be that a few Spartan officers would accompany to get a first hand view of Terran battle tactics. Something Sparta command would be very interested in. The ships in question are older spartan ships but ones that morgan systems experts had gone through and updated weapon systems and control systems. (per standing contract of course and at some profit to Morgan no doubt ) I think it might make things interesting for the terrans to find out that Spartan ships were involved and I know that Hive operatives would find in interesting too. Im thinking along the lines of the Elite class of ships. I know they aren't troop transports, but your going to have to have plenty of escort vessels. You could explain it by saying that the ships had arrived according to a prior agreement if the time frame wouldnt allow us to negotiate and then send them. I don't know what kind of timeframe your attack is on.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/SpartanGualtShip.html

yeah, i bet they look familiar don't they. I was trying for a unique look for the Spartan ships.


anyway I have a lot of future characters planned out and here is a small sneak peak.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/SpartanCitizens.html

take a look at the cool scout vessel. Its somewhat the Falcon from star wars but redesigned and a little smaller.

http://www.geocities.com/kessel74/SpartanScoutShips.html

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by History Guy
By the way, Kassiopeia, hadn't we better start planning the fight of Callisto, and the attempts to stop the (fake) transport? It is coming up in my next post.

Again, Sol is heavily covered with ships.... so can't simply sneak in and surprise attack. Also, again, the Terran Alliance FLeet will get involve in the defence of any members colonies.

About Cloaking.... i rather not see all of Chiron Factions to have it..... atleast the Hive and the Data Angels. Or simply make cloaking devices very rare... can also have Electronic Warfare devices too people, to be invisible on sensors and etc...

I am leaving on the 23rd and not sure if i will be able to continue playing for the next 8 months after that. SO i will try to get as much done with the site, and so on, before i leave.

-LMP

[Kassiopeia]

LMP does have a point. Why on earth does Morgan wish to attack Callisto anyhow? Why would he not try it out on Pluto, or some more distant spot? There are thousands of Alliance, InEn or Coalition ships in the system. When/if Callisto detects the intruders, even when they have reached near vicinity, there will be a huge load of ships there going point blank.
We need something to keep them from surface bombarding the entire colony to smithereens. Probably hostages? But that would not be Morgan's style, would it? And in the 28th century there are targeting systems accurate enough to tell the difference from a Morganite encampment/landed ship and a civilian location.

Tricky indeed. What is the opinion of the Thread-deity?

Planning on my post; I figure that it would include the detection and swift elimination of the fake fleet, and then the moment when the InEn finds out that there are people moving in on Callisto.
Or where-ever Morgan attacks.

I do think that we need Morgan counter-attacking some Sol location altogether. It is, do not forget vital to continue the Nova Saturna agenda. The Morganite attack is timed so that the Rhea-Titanian insurgents can throw the Coalition out when it's busy with the Morganite strike.

(Prime Minister Drecaille is going to have one hell of a day, btw. )

I am leaving on the 23rd and not sure if i will be able to continue playing for the next 8 months after that. SO i will try to get as much done with the site, and so on, before i leave.

Erm, then, we need someone to "upkeep" the Scions, Venutians and Belters. And the Pirates, of course.

Sprayber, in the spot where an Apache class scout is supposed to be shown, there is a mere red cross with a white background. Might be a good idea to check your img src -code.