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LMP: I realize Lal may not know anything about Pirate troop movements. But this may give him a reason to become curious. Generate some talk within the Alliance about overall strategy. Who knows what all this can stir up.
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh
Guardian, so I´m not playing according to the rules, huh ? whatever you wan´t to think, this argument is getting way off the line...
I´d like to move whats left of my cultist troops to the north.Then they won´t bother the PK´s ever again!( or atleast for a long time )
Okay, maybe I went a little too overboard with that "This will prove, once and for all..." statement, but as you said, it will raise questions and hopefully make some argument between alliance members.
Imagine the NATO troops in Kosovo suddenly attacking a Serb army base, slaughtering everybody there, shoving the bodies into a truck, writing with blood some gruesome things on the truck walls and sending that truck to the nearest serb town. The serbs there videotape it and send the tape to every major news office.
After that, the media is going personally to make NATO´s situation a living hell...
Anyway, if you do make a proper public investigation and a court martial, I´ll be satisfied .
Cyber, communications/internet like network/etc is not well established between the factions as it is on Earth, here, at the moment. Neither is world wide media coverage. Hey, many things within Sparta, Hive, Believers, CoP and so on is not well known yet. Even the Pirates and Gaians can be bit of a mystery. In the Central Continent, it is bit more develop between the Data Angels, Morganites, University and Cyborgs. but the limits arise still out of the continent. When factions start sending satellites up which would improve communications, datalinks/internet, etc... and when air travel becomes more common and develop.
It is because of these current limitations which makes it hard to completly prove things, like past atrocities. With that probe team done at Janissary Rock was the first real inside view within a Spartan Base... which the PKs took advantage of this footage and shown it on their NEws Network.
Also, want to clarify the long-range communications and short-range communications. Short range, like hand radios, inter-unit/base comm, and so on, like within a square and adjacent squares. Long range is like sending a message to from point to the other in distant....where anyone in between with their comm can easily intercept. Blast Rifle Crag for example temporally lost their Long Range Comm capability, but they still have their short-range. So a Blockade Guardian unit just needs to get close to the base to establish proper, more private. communications :P
Cyber: Well, I agree that this argument is "getting way off line", but quite frankly, you talked to me about "decency and realism", and the next thing I knew, I was being attacked by "supernatural" soldiers who move faster than light and defeat enemies with thunder & lightning out of their ass! Now I suppose you want to give them flying abilities as well?
Yah, right...
"Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
-- Saddam Hussein
First person--It's a bird
Second person--It's a plane
Third person--No, it's just one of those cult people
Kessel isn't going to start contacting CNN and offering them a scoop. He will hold on to the message and use it when he thinks is the best time. He may send it to Lal to demonstrate that sometimes in war people get carried away. I'm sure that Lal would be very upset at such behavior from peackeepers. But the Spartans have been gassing and slave taking and a few other things. We should have been a bit more restrictive on such things. But done is done.
When is this peace business going to move a little?
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh
I'll post a message from Lal with the Peacekeeper's peace terms today...
-and yes, Lal would be VERY upset about that thing with the rover, as would more than a few other Peacekeepers, although a few (including Braddock) would probably just say "tough sh!t @ssholes"...
"Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
-- Saddam Hussein
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh
The two kingdom story by Braddock...
Well, I'm not sure where it originally came from, but I borrowed it from Tom Clancy, who used it as an introduction for his book "The Sum of all Fears". Clancy in turn said he borrowed it from Herman Kahn, who used it in some piece he wrote on thermonuclear warfare...
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"Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
-- Saddam Hussein
Anyway, the CoW´s are only Elite with 25% attack, like with the believers. However, they are a tough piece of sh*t to stomp on in battle
Maybe the anonymous persons inside Sparta Command are just testing and seeing what will Kessel do with the tape.
LordLMP, i know there isn´t a "CNN" on Chiron yet, but it would be probably quite a scoop if the tape was to be shown on Spartan, Hive and University channels (maybe even too big in the case of Spartans, might result in the braking of the cease-fire... who knows)
Spray... me, Santiago and the Junta (except Kessel, who was punished to sit in the corner because he did not want to kill PKs ) enjoyed every moment of the... let´s see( looks at a long list)... gassing, torturing, mass murdering, xenocide, slave taking, nerve stapling, nuking bases, attempt to nuke the polar cap, native ecological destruction etc...
BUAHAHAA ......
Oh, and Spray, I planned the Cult to build atleast two more bases on the northern Island, meaning there should some investments, like Colony pods, from the Spartan Federation. Whats your opinion?
Anyways, what should we do with Commander "Cyborg" Clayson? I can imagine Lal and lot of other PKs having a heart attack when seeing him alive and well, and pointing a gun at them... but of course his primary mission is to assasinate Braddock and he´ll have to get near him, so he won´t blow up his "cover" so easily.
About making Sparta a stronger military power. Yes, you´re right we can´t beat them on land, but not on sea also because of the pirates and their outrageous amount of ships and modern technology. So that leaves us air, and eventually... space. The problem is, there is noone to fight, because it´ll be either a faction in the Chiron alliance or a neutral faction that´ll be eventually militarily backed up by the Chiron alliance. So, as long as the Alliance is in the picture, its pointless to be a Spartan ... but hey, times change and relations change... hopefully.
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Spartans suppose to be honorable, not evil monsters. The point i was trying to make with santiego is she is not evil, just got stuck and sort of forced to allow these atrocities to be committed. But quietly, she was fighting it. Three bases on the northern continent? will take awhile before you get that. but the mass atrocities was overboard thought, especially nukes! after that thing with SeaQuest, the factions will become more serious towards nuclear threat, which was to avoid and not end up like earth! Anyway, not going to allow anymore expansion on that beyond one base until the alien story goes through. As for the AIr power bit, Free Drones is already moving to become an Air Power, quietly.
Stop thinking that the Chiron Alliance will simply fall apart, but they will have their political problems. Especially concerning the Pirates and policies on various things.
Some of the Peacekeepers have ambitions about some day leaving the Chiron Alliance and become truly neutral, like the U.N. Peacekeepers should be...
However, this is not likely to happen unless they find themselves strong enough militarily to defeat Sparta and the Hive without asking for help from anybody, which is probably not very realistic...
"Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
-- Saddam Hussein
Well... How "useful" Sparta has been still remains a controversial subject, but the Peacekeepers have definitely learned their lesson...
They'll still try to be nice people whenever possible, but their military will be hanging out just beyond the next highway intersection, preparing to kick your ass if you won't listen to the nice people...
The U.N. Charter is NOT "just a piece of paper" anymore!
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"Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
-- Saddam Hussein
"Live in peace with your neighbors, or we´ll come and kick your ass!" screams a peacekeeper, pointing a shredder gun at the same time ... and all of this is because of Sparta´s agressive attitude... it just makes me so proud of the Spartans .
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Generate some talk within the Alliance about overall strategy. Who knows what all this can stir up.
? whatever you wan´t to think, this argument is getting way off the line...
... but hey, times change and relations change... hopefully. 
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