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  • Originally posted by Flubber
    OUt of character-- this simply put is the best move for me to try to win the game.
    I agree, and it was also expected, though i was hoping you'd need more time.

    AS you all boom, I will not be able to out-research four (or even 3 factions). I have only had one PBEM that was completely peaceful and that was because the geography meant that no one was close to my core-- You sebp, with your continual worry about me placing bases within PB range of YOUR core highlighted my problem in that the PKs have almost their entire empire within PB range of MY core. I could not see a way to protect the risk given where ODPs sit in the tech tree versus PBs
    I was caught off guard when you attacked gaia, i knew before that you really should attack but i guess i hoped you wouldn't and convinced myself you'd be less - efficient than you were.

    That the PK were next was obvious though.
    Them being dangerous to you via PBs is pretty much the rationale i tried to convince PK they are in immediate danger - I actually expected they'd be the first to be attacked, if you'd attack.


    Sebp -- are you going to tell me that you guys would not have done a 3 way attack on me at some point if given the opportunity??
    My comment about "trying to warn the world about you" was pretty much referring to my attempts to engineer such an attack. I should probably just have attacked decades back, the others would have allied with me sooner or later.

    Yes wars are time-consuming and there will be a LOT of considering and diplomacy I guess. and I don't hazard a guess on how well this would go for me . . .
    I do. I also don't believe you for a second when you say you don't

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    • Originally posted by SebP


      I agree, and it was also expected, though i was hoping you'd need more time.


      Originally posted by SebP


      That the PK were next was obvious though.
      Them being dangerous to you via PBs is pretty much the rationale i tried to convince PK they are in immediate danger - I actually expected they'd be the first to be attacked, if you'd attack.

      I was thinking I wouldn't initiate an attack since I didn't like the idea of taking on 4 of you at once. BUt ecerything I saw pointed to all the factions being pretty lightly armed and this made the attacks feasible.

      Gaia were harder to get to, its true but it came down to two things

      1. I felt I have more in-character justification to attack the Gaians for the reasons I have specified previously

      2. Looking at their respective stages of research, I felt I could prevent the Gaians next discovery-- Stalling your trch cooperation was a big motivator

      I could have had a far more effective first stike against the PKs if I hit them first-- it is true

      OH and on the decision to attack the PKs at all, your actions tipped the balance. Your move of multiple transports, seapods etc into areas uncomfortably close in my north was a trigger. I anticipated that you would plant some heavily armed bases in a position to strike immediately


      Originally posted by SebP


      My comment about "trying to warn the world about you" was pretty much referring to my attempts to engineer such an attack. I should probably just have attacked decades back, the others would have allied with me sooner or later.
      and I thought you might attack decades back. Thats why I was patrolling so vigorously on our frontiers. It would have been tough sledding for you unless you achieved a tech or numerical advantage or managed a big tactical surprise. But it would have been a very different game


      Originally posted by SebP

      I do. I also don't believe you for a second when you say you don't
      WEll you know that I never attack without defined goals and that I don't attack if I don't think I can achieve them. But I generally overestimate the opponents potential response as part of that assessment. Its just safer that way. MY pessimistic view is that there is a heck of a lot your alliance can still do (although this turn may be Darsnan's last)


      I will be interested in particular to see what visible Drone response there is.
      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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      • ok its ok again so game on

        ceo drow looked out of the window , he sighed and pushed a button on his desk * general report on the hostilities beyond our borders* he snapped

        yes sir , well lit seems the angels and the peacekeepers are about to engage in a planetary scale, war over the skirmishes between the angels and the gaians

        our best plan is to remain nutral and hope eaither side wont want us as a road to the other

        the ceo swallowed hard "very well issue a proclamation to everyone were nutuarl during this conflict "

        "aye sir"

        ok guys this is well me saying ok im not gonna do anything

        hey wars are great im not on nobodys side and well if you wish to use my teritory as a road i carnt stop you anyway
        Last edited by drow21; April 30, 2007, 17:51.

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        • The buzzer awakened hackerflub from a deep sleep.

          "What is it" he grunted as he thumbed the vidcomm

          The undersecretary for State appeared " Sir sorry to disturb you but there has been a startling development. A northen base in the Morganite empire admired our achievments so much that the local government joined the Dataangels"

          "Any repercussions"

          "Well so far the citizenry in the base are completely content and our diplomatic relations remain at treaty status. There have been some Drone units spotted in Morganite bases prior to this event and it is expected that will continue. We had planned a complaint to the Morganites about this but now I expect we will be seeing a complaint from the Morganites about the missing base"

          " Undersecretary-- did we have a role in causing the base to join us"

          " I haven't asked sir and if I did, I doubt the covert ops people would tell me or if they did, that I would believe the answer. I suspect that you are better off not knowing "

          "Morganite forces?"

          " Still at peaceful status. The only maintain a small defence force in any event"
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • played most of the turn, will finish tonight

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            • Originally posted by SebP
              played most of the turn, will finish tonight
              Cool-- I am most curious to see what the Drones do to me
              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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              • 2213 sent to drow

                Originally posted by Flubber
                Cool-- I am most curious to see what the Drones do to me
                nothing for now
                well, xcept i did have the chance to shoot down the ones responsible for sinking my peaceful trading vessels so obviously i did

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                • well now then lets see what i can salvage turn will be later on

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                  • Originally posted by SebP

                    well, xcept i did have the chance to shoot down the ones responsible for sinking my peaceful trading vessels so obviously i did
                    That was pretty much expected although I would characterize the gathering as multiple troop transports and portable army bases . Seriously-- Multiple transports are not needed for a patrol function and in fact are quite bad at it compared with radar aircraft.

                    From my perspective, I sunk a potential invasion fleet.
                    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                    • Originally posted by drow21
                      well now then lets see what i can salvage turn will be later on
                      Nothing to salvage as you were not attacked.
                      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                      • Originally posted by Flubber


                        Nothing to salvage as you were not attacked.
                        ok :P turn will be another few hours

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                        • turn tomid

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                          • Received, but very busy so can't play right now - will hopefully have it sent out in the next couple of days. Apologies.

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                            • no problem, me kinda busy too

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                              • Originally posted by Mid
                                Received, but very busy so can't play right now - will hopefully have it sent out in the next couple of days. Apologies.
                                No problem here either-- THis is one of the biggest turns of the game so I expect people to take their time
                                You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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