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  • 2133 to sebp
    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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    • Originally posted by Mid


      When this is over, I'd love to know exactly how Flubber started, to go so far ahead (I'd imagine it had something to do with *not* taking *forever* to get his starting bases down...ahem)
      Nothing remarkeable really but I did have all the bases down by turn 2.

      Oh and don't let the powergraph fool you-- I have prioritized population growth ( at the expense of infrastructure) and we all know how the powergraph over-emphasizes population.

      Once the game is over, I will share saves with anyone that wants though and you can see how standard and routine it was ( well unless you try to avoid overlapping base radii)
      You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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      • Originally posted by Leon Trotsky
        Thanks!

        Two of my bases are working fungus, and currently have no mineral output. So basically I'm waiting till they grow to two before sending workers to the forest to gather minerals for the Colony Pods. It's eight turns before both of them grow, and will take another eight to complete the pods. The best of it all is that they are my second and third base (I managed to "start" with three colony pods). Talk about bad decision making and idiotic base placement...

        Trotsky
        -Someone has to play as an extra...

        Do you try to use "perfectionist spacing" and not overlap base radii? Or did you pop pods before you have your bases down and have fungus wipe out good tiles?

        Its just that your situation sounds so very bad that it surprises me. While I did find that it was hard to find a tile that was not adjacent to fungus, there were decent enough tiles around the start position. Once this is over, I would be very curious to see your start position. I am wondering how many good workable tiles your capitol has, versus these other bases.
        Last edited by Flubber; September 4, 2006, 08:24.
        You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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        • Trotsky, i made some errors too already... I build 2 too many bases before deciding that i really need to switch to FM and now have drones all over the place.

          2133 to drow21

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          • Hmm - I took a long time getting my bases down, I've got massive overlapping to make use of decent tiles (something I've never done before). I'm not prioritising anything at the moment (build\growth equally), since I've not played a PBEM before, and I'm hoping to decide exactly what to do a little later on.

            Right now, places for later exansion are looking damn near non-existant, and scouting's not much of an option with FM (do Probes count here, or are they free to explore?) and fungus barriers.

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            • Originally posted by Mid

              Right now, places for later exansion are looking damn near non-existant, and scouting's not much of an option with FM (do Probes count here, or are they free to explore?) and fungus barriers.
              probes do not cause pacifism drones-- nor do any of the independent units you started with

              You guys probably noticed that I am in planned anyway. I have pretty much found a fungus barrier to cross in pretty much every direction I'm betting its part of Darsnan's attempt to guide us on a builder theme. Its a lot tougher to mount a ground invasion if you have to cross 2 or 3 separate patches of fungus to get to an opponent
              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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              • Originally posted by Mid
                Hmm - I took a long time getting my bases down, I've got massive overlapping to make use of decent tiles (something I've never done before).

                Read vel's strategy guide on turn advantage. Every turn you delay getting a base planted hurts. None of my bases have a base radii all to themselves. . . . in fact the overlap is QUITE extensive.

                I have seen many arguments on this board about the ideal or best base spacing and I have accepted none of the schemes. I simply put bases where they fit best. In the very early game that means a 2 nut tile. By this stage of the later early game, having a forest ready to harvest is equally appealing
                You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                • Thanks, Flubber. You know, it never crossed my mind that a forest might be a good square to work off the bat. Meh.

                  Besides that, things aren't going too badly (famous last words!).

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                  • ive tried to place bases in nice spots thts probably why im the lowest fraction at this time

                    i think it ws a bit silly of me to go for "perfect base spacing"

                    i changed my se goal and i ended up lousing more than i gained it took me several turns to corect that too

                    i have just started to build up the areas around my base beacase of the aformentioned change

                    its alot more hmm is tactical ? the right word but im enjoying every minute of it

                    anyway turn to mid

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                    • Originally posted by Flubber
                      Do you try to use "perfectionist spacing" and not overlap base radii? Or did you pop pods before you have your bases down and have fungus wipe out good tiles?

                      Its just that your situation sounds so very bad that it surprises me.
                      In other words... "I cannot believe this bloke is so bad!". My situation is consequence of two major mistakes I made:

                      1- Getting greedy. I thought that if I explored enough, I would come across some nice landmark (monsoon jungle )

                      2- Upon finding nothing of interest, panicking and placing my bases immediatly, instead of returning to the relatively good starting position (I sort of took vel's advice to the extreme of absurd).

                      Edit: I almost forgot - I used those rover colony pods to pop unity pods, and lost one in the process.

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                      • Originally posted by Leon Trotsky


                        In other words... "I cannot believe this bloke is so bad!".
                        Nope-- I would never say that-- There are so many variables in this game that even very good players can get a rough time


                        Originally posted by Leon Trotsky




                        1- Getting greedy. I thought that if I explored enough, I would come across some nice landmark (monsoon jungle [IMG]
                        Now I KNEW that wouldn't happen-- The realities of a prepared map is that no one will be given a super duper strong landmark on their doorstep. If something as unbalancing as the monsoon jungle does appear on this map, it will likely be somewhere central so that everyone has an equal shot at it-- More likely is that everyone might find a few tiles of monsoon jungle somewhere close to them-- although I have not found any yet

                        Originally posted by Leon Trotsky


                        2- Upon finding nothing of interest, panicking and placing my bases immediatly, instead of returning to the relatively good starting position (I sort of took vel's advice to the extreme of absurd).
                        In that case your start position sounds almost identical to mine. You can get 4 bases down but if you space them out at all, you quickly find yourself with bad positions so terraforming is needed
                        You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                        • Originally posted by Mid
                          Thanks, Flubber. You know, it never crossed my mind that a forest might be a good square to work off the bat. Meh.
                          well I don't like forests as the first worked tile for the very early bases but once you have 5 or 6 bases planted they rock IMHO


                          Originally posted by Mid


                          Besides that, things aren't going too badly (famous last words!).
                          and for me they aren't going as well as you might think. As I said before, I focused on population early and am, of course, now struggling with drone control
                          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                          • Well, I guess it's time to get those Formers working!

                            Trotsky's turn:
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                            • 2134 on to sebp
                              You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                              • Originally posted by Mid
                                Right now, places for later exansion are looking damn near non-existant, and scouting's not much of an option with FM (do Probes count here, or are they free to explore?) and fungus barriers.
                                Remember you also have 3 independent scout patrols from game start.

                                2134 to drow21

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