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  • Well, it seems in standard version there is no possibility to plant forest intentionally. they however can spread as in SMAC. but that's it.
    Reading civ4 threads I find some explanations for this, like reducing MM (micromanagement?), overuse due to chopping them down-regrowing etc.

    I would not follow this logic. it is taking away possibilities rather than working on the balance of gameplay with them included. Serious deviation from reality very science-fiction.

    So forests grew to rank of very precious resource, that can additionally spread. i would still add maybe here a regrown forest type. In addition to that non-recoverable one.

    And about C4:AC forests must be back for planting definitely.
    Mart
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    • Well, it seems in standard version there is no possibility to plant forest intentionally.
      I think it's the same as with monoliths in SMAC, but I also think we will be able to add them to terraform orders..
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      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • I'm sure it'll verge on trivial to add a plant forest option. Making the AI work with it might be harder since the AI might be coded to think of Forest as something to chop down.

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        • It is *nice* to have your production surplus spill over to the next item in the list.

          I did miss a crawler-like unit on my first startup (normal game speed). Things simply went to slow for me. (being spoiled by SMAC I guess )
          Quick game mode seems to be my thing here.
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          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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          • Workers are also finally fixed. They work the same as SMAC formers, so far as I noticed.
            Mart
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            • First things to see and get to know them:
              The map script guide.
              It is actually an introduction to what options in the game mean.
              I find the map generator quite nice. Coastlines are looking good.

              In depth look at the WBS file
              This is first look into text based settings.
              Mart
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              • What about first step in modding in trying bringing factions into life.

                Gaians = Hatshepsut (need work on hairstyle)

                Hive = Genghis Khan (if he takes of the hat and get shaved = perfect Yang with his atitude)

                Zakharov = Franklin Roosevelt (we will have to work on his accent)

                Morgan = Mansa Musa (as soon as he takes of that stuff)

                Santiago = Catherine The Great (we will increase the slap power only)

                Miriam = Victoria (dye her hair to red)

                Lal = Saladin
                Mart
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                WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                • What about first step in modding in trying bringing factions into life.

                  Gaians = Hatshepsut (need work on hairstyle)

                  Hive = Genghis Khan (if he takes of the hat and get shaved = perfect Yang with his atitude)

                  Zakharov = Franklin Roosevelt (we will have to work on his accent)

                  Morgan = Mansa Musa (as soon as he takes of that stuff)

                  Santiago = Catherine The Great (we will increase the slap power only)

                  Miriam = Victoria (dye her hair to red)

                  Lal = Saladin
                  Lol, sound funny but doable.
                  Aren't there legal issues in this?
                  -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                  -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                  • I vote for Isabella as Deedee...
                    (and Elizabeth's hair already is red )
                    He who knows others is wise.
                    He who knows himself is enlightened.
                    -- Lao Tsu

                    SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                    • Lol, sound funny but doable.
                      Aren't there legal issues in this?
                      Why would there be legal issues?

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                      • Identity theft?
                        Mart
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                        • Originally posted by binTravkin
                          Regarding the time and playability issues I think our mod will start with something like v.0.1. which will be a fully playable cIV with first SMAC thingies implemented, then it will advance in stages ultimately coming to v1.0 where we should be done with most reasonable SMACXish implements.
                          After that we move on to harder-to-implement things and probably something different(if you know what I mean)..
                          Exactly! Better to do it in steps than try to make it an clone of SMAC for the getto.

                          -mellian

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                          • Identity theft?
                            thats like saying a graphics mod is going to have legal issues
                            if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

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                            • No, Im not sure, it was a question.
                              I just thought if we use those pics there might be such, if you don't think so, than it's okay.
                              -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                              -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                              • ah,if you mean the smax icons,that might.i thought you were just referring to changing leaderhead names
                                if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

                                ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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