[C4:AC] Official C4-->SMAC Thread - Prelude to a Mod

[Gavin Berchler]

OK I set up a wiki, will set up a phpbb unless some can speak to one of the existing sites.

HEres the wiki

http://wikihost.org/wikis/smacmod/

[Kataphraktoi]

is that a fully open wiki?

and you know,if this gets posted on the news,you are going to have alot of traffic.

personally,id have a 'can i join the wiki' thread where people can be authorized.maybe im overrestrictive though
griefers may ruin pages just to be annoying,even if they can be fixed later

We are talking about a modification for Civilization IV that would make it Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri. We are basically modifying one Sid game to another. . I don't know what he will do, but he might put a cIV mod along with other cIV related things. We must not forget that this modification is above all based on Civ IV.

all my experiances with markg,he seems quite easy going.i wouldnt see him putting it in cIV if we\you\whoever asked him to put it around here.then again,i dont know him

[Illuminatus]

Indeed MarkG is a easy going person. We can't know what will he do unless we ask him.

Cataphract887, you do have a point about wiki. I've seen people ruining pages on various wikis. We should have such a thread, but only after we get a forum. For now, we should conscipt people for wiki in this thread.

[Darsnan]

Originally posted by Illuminatus
For now, we should conscipt people for wiki in this thread.

"Conscript" means to force someone to join, as in "a lot of Americans were conscripted into the military during WW2". I think you mean "enlist".

Or maybe not....


Anyways, one item we might want to add to our "To Do" list is to decide upon a "Modability Litmus Test" to be done right up front after someone purchases the game. Say for instance we were to try and edit out all the functions of Religion in cIV and see exactly all that is involved in accomplishing this. Or perhaps mod'ing into the game something such as the Marine Detachment special ability, and see how difficult that is.

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[Illuminatus]

Or maybe not....

We will need someone to do the graphics. I remember more people talking about this, but no one mentioned he /she is any good with graphics.

This link should be of interest to us.

[Chaos Theory]

I will definitely be working on modding Civ 4 to SMAC. I've picked apart various SMAC mechanics, and have dealt with lexing/parsing and general programming for a while. I can draw pictures if I really need to, sort of, but I know how to handle displaying objects on the screen.

[Senethro]

Excellent, everyone I was hoping is turning up. As soon as we hear from binTravkin shall we consider the project live and official? I regard his input and experience with python as very important.

Lets get everyones email addresses. Could you put them in your roster Illuminatus?

senethro at gmail dot com

[Kataphraktoi]

we seem to be lacking graphics people
are we chopping the 3d and restoring a 2d world?

william at pembrook dot net

[Senethro]

Originally posted by Cataphract887
we seem to be lacking graphics people
are we chopping the 3d and restoring a 2d world?

Lets worry about that when we draw up the design document. If you know where such people can be found, go ahead and make contact but lets keep this thread on track.

[Darsnan]

techs document

The attached is a cheatsheet of the tech graphics and what techs their actually for. File is in MS Notepad.
Also note that the colors do not always match what is ingame, so I am assuming that some hardcoding is manipulating the colors accordingly. FYI in case this becomes an issue.


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[Senethro]

Nice bit of work there, thats the sort of thing that would be a useful reference on the wiki.
EDIT: Do the tech sounds follow the same numbering?


Thanks for providing us with an example wiki Gavin, but is it the best choice for us? How does wikihost differ from other wikis? How much administrative control do we have? WHO has administrative control? I've not taken a thorough look, but glanced through and noted that you are expected to download backups of your own wiki onto your own computer. This is just a single but significant example of policies we need to know before settling on a choice of wiki.

While on that topic, would it be possible for Illuminatus to sound out Mark on the subject of our own forum? (in the Civ4 section )

[Kataphraktoi]

i use MediaWiki myself. it dosnt have some of the hand holding features,but it works good.

nj dars

[Darsnan]

Originally posted by Senethro
EDIT: Do the tech sounds follow the same numbering?

I've gone thru the first 5 tech voice files and they do match up with the same numbered techs graphics files, so I am going to assume that they do match up thru the complete sequence.

Also note that I've edited my above post to reflect that the techs graphics files are in false colors. I'm assuming some hardcoding is manipulating the colors then accordingly. FYI.


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[Maniac]

Originally posted by Darsnan
I've gone thru the first 5 tech voice files and they do match up with the same numbered techs graphics files, so I am going to assume that they do match up thru the complete sequence.

Also note that I've edited my above post to reflect that the techs graphics files are in false colors. I'm assuming some hardcoding is manipulating the colors then accordingly. FYI.

The colour of the tech icon is determined by what value of Explore, Build, Discover, Conquer is highest for that tech in alphax.txt. The colour of the facilities and secret projects do match with those in the pic itself.

I haven't bothered to check what's the result if two values of E,B,D,C are the same.

[Gavin Berchler]

I am using an open wiki for the moment, if it becomes a problem we can lock it down.

Here is the phpbb I set up, its on a free host we can move to another site if required.

Heres the link

Board: http://smacmod.netfreehost.com/

Wiki: http://wikihost.org/wikis/smacmod/

I have created a seperate section for project planning, once the team is on board we can close the doors on the section to any one except core members.