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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dissident
    game seems pretty bug-free to me.
    I recently experienced the bug that wipes out your entire faction and starts you over with 3 colony pods

    I had developed a large 1x1 ICS empire complete with full borehole density......all wiped out. I didn't have a recent save and the autosave was no good.

    That little incident nearly drove me from SMAC all together.
    "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
    "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
    "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
    "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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    • #77
      I recently experienced the bug that wipes out your entire faction and starts you over with 3 colony pods

      I had developed a large 1x1 ICS empire complete with full borehole density......all wiped out. I didn't have a recent save and the autosave was no good.

      That little incident nearly drove me from SMAC all together.
      Well, your terraforming (boreholes etc.) remains and overall I think it's one of the funniest things in SMAC/X, because it sometimes makes Single Player sooooo interesting!

      What's the fun of having 10 times the power of the second most powerful faction?
      No challenge..

      But when I last came in situation You describe I was amazed how interesting it turned out.

      I had a huge techlead, but little resources except for those nutsats hangin over my head..

      Spartans immediately took advantage on this (had been at Vendetta with them from the very start because they disliked my Wealth.. ) and came in with 6-1-10 Needlejets.

      I built one 1-<6>-1*2 defender in my closest-to-Spartans base and an Aerospace Complex (which later helped with nutsat output) and held off the entire Spartan Air Force..

      (1-<6>-1*2 effectively gives 6 * (100% [base value] + 100%[complex] + 100%[AAA] ) * 2 [reactor]= 36 AA defense.
      6-1-10 NJs are no good for that..
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by livid imp


        I recently experienced the bug that wipes out your entire faction and starts you over with 3 colony pods

        I had developed a large 1x1 ICS empire complete with full borehole density......all wiped out. I didn't have a recent save and the autosave was no good.

        That little incident nearly drove me from SMAC all together.
        think of it as a challenge

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        • #79
          Originally posted by binTravkin
          Well, your terraforming (boreholes etc.) remains and overall I think it's one of the funniest things in SMAC/X, because it sometimes makes Single Player sooooo interesting!
          I don't play for the challenge of beating the AI.....that is nearly a given. I play in a similar way one would play SimCity. I like the 'build an empire' feel to it. War is just a tool to accomplish this, which I avoid unless the AI has something I want. It is more about control than conflict for me, so no, losing all of my cities sucked.
          "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
          "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
          "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
          "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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          • #80
            Originally posted by binTravkin
            (1-<6>-1*2 effectively gives 6 * (100% [base value] + 100%[complex] + 100%[AAA] ) * 2 [reactor]= 36 AA defense.
            6-1-10 NJs are no good for that..
            Most combat bonuses stack multiplicatively. What you should have had is:

            6 (base) * 2 (AAA) * 2 (Aerospace) * 2 (effect of reactor) = 48.
            "Cutlery confused Stalin"
            -BBC news

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            • #81
              Don't forget bases give +25% defense...

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              • #82
                Most combat bonuses stack multiplicatively. What you should have had is:

                6 (base) * 2 (AAA) * 2 (Aerospace) * 2 (effect of reactor) = 48.
                Well, I didn't remember how exactly, so I gave the minimum value..
                Anyways - seeing how 4-5 NJs die on a single defender each turn was fun!

                Not mentioning it became elite after 3 or 4 turns IIRC..

                Don't forget bases give +25% defense...
                Yeah and sensors too, but these bonuses were almost nullified with Spartan morale bonus..


                I don't play for the challenge of beating the AI.....that is nearly a given. I play in a similar way one would play SimCity. I like the 'build an empire' feel to it. War is just a tool to accomplish this, which I avoid unless the AI has something I want. It is more about control than conflict for me, so no, losing all of my cities sucked.
                If you send me that save Id really enjoy in finishing it!
                -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Commy
                  Don't forget bases give +25% defense...
                  I think that is subsumed by perimeter defenses, naval yards, aerospace complexes, and tachyon fields, though I'm not prepared to test it right now.
                  "Cutlery confused Stalin"
                  -BBC news

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                  • #84
                    I think that is subsumed by perimeter defenses, naval yards, aerospace complexes, and tachyon fields, though I'm not prepared to test it right now.
                    You're right on this CT.
                    IIRC as soon as base has any defense facility for the given attacker, the +25% bonus is replaced by 100% from the facility.
                    -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                    -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by binTravkin If you send me that save Id really enjoy in finishing it!
                      That was my problem. I hadn't saved it all day. All I had was the autosave after the bug struck. I since have used the autosave in another game.

                      If it ever happens to me again, I'll save it for ya BT.
                      "They’re lazy troublemakers, and they all carry weapons." - SMAC Manual, Page 59 Regarding Drones
                      "Without music, life would be a mistake." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
                      "If fascism came to America it would be on a program of Americanism." -- Huey Long
                      "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering

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                      • #86
                        all I can say is drop infantry are the bomb! yeah I know the bomb is 90's slang. I don't know what you kids say today. pwns or something like that.
                        I don't know about "the bomb" being very old slang. My friends and I still use it on occasion in that usage, sometimes replaced by "teh bomb" in that annoying sort of way. For reference, I'm 18.
                        #play s.-cd#g+c-ga#+dgfg#+cf----q.c
                        #endgame

                        Quantum P. is a champion: http://geocities.com/zztexpert/docs/upoprgv4.html

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                        • #87
                          Me! Me! Me!

                          Ah, I recognize I havent played since the last...3 months, but i've played SMAC since the demo came out (oh, I still remember myself sayin' "HOLY GOD THIS IS IT!" ).
                          I luv the game if you havent noticed...and will keep on playin' until the cd dies...then i'll get another one!
                          By the way...do any of you know why SMAX won't install in my new laptop? it says some files are missing...
                          "Too much ambition is a sin...only if you fail"
                          Yoritomo Kumiko

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