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[Enigma_Nova]

Only in this thread.

Homo Sapiens can only increase in knowledge//understanding if they want to.
Most folk have no need to be smart, and remain in their trap of stupidity.

Time Travel is as fictional a concept of absolute future or past.
I don't know what happens when the linearity of time is changed, but it sure won't be an instantaneous effect across all time!

[Kody]

I really wouldn't want to try and make any claims on how time travel works. I was just reguritating some of the theories since they're confusing and in my opinion don't mean very much since there's zero proof on everything they say.

I don't know what happens when the linearity of time is changed, but it sure won't be an instantaneous effect across all time!

When you say "instantaneous effect across all time" you sound like you believe that time can experience time. Which really needs some clarification since it doesn't really conform to logic, but that's okay since many time travel theories don't quite conform to logic. However, if you start coming up with illogical theories then you need to spell out what you mean.

[Illuminatus]

Time travel does not work. Period. It is pretty obvious to everyone with even a tiny bit of logic.

[Jamski]

Otherwise we would have had visitors from other times... right?

However, according to both the SToR and the GToR, time travel of a sort is possible by travelling fast enough though our 3 dimensions. The fact that time is passing more slowly the faster you travel is a proven scientific fact. Unfortunately it only works one way (i.e. you can get to the future quicker by flying in orbit at near light speeds) and is of no practical use.

-Jam

[Enigma_Nova]

Kody: Presume a particle called a Chronon.
Said particle has a finite speed.
Transmitting information from one time to another can only be accomplished at a finite rate.
Information must be exchanged by particles, which all move at a finite speed through spacetime.

And, of course, if it affected all time instantaneously then you get a paradox.
If it happens slowly then you get either a runoff or an equilibrium effect - not an instant paradox.

[binTravkin]

Hey this was once thread discussing english grammar!

[Illuminatus]

Jamski: and the fact it would break all logic and most of physical laws. Such numerous questions.... The thing you reffering to, can be reffered as time travel, but it only appers as if we are travelling quicker, since we lose time. If we could travel at near light speed speeds, voyage to other side of galaxy could appear as if it lasted for several days while the galaxy would be in reality about 70 000 years "older" than the crew of the ship. This could be a sort of practical use, if we assumed that it would be one day achievable to construct such a ship. BTW, are there any news from Gravity B probe?

[binTravkin]

Your information is a bit outdated guys - it was an issue of past years to travel the Universe by achieving near-light speed.
Havent you heard nothing about wormholes??
Concept of those contains much less illogical and counter-physical ideas - It is based on ToR (or them both) and is quite simple, quite lawful and quite argumented..
The only thing about it - there have been no practical experiments (at least I havent heard) in this field and some of leading physicists think that:

Universe is a chunk of matter which pulses with a constant frequency. This frequency is theoretically factor which allows to travel from one point in timespace to other point completely ignoring one of the 4 dimensions (x,y,z,time). Most appealing is the ignorance of the time or travelling in 0 time.
But let us return to the Wormhole concept:
Wormhole = 2 joined black holes in the different places of universe.
Nothing can take off from Black hole.

1.Imagine something can! Wont this something leave tremendous impact on the hole and the Universe itself?
Some of scientists believe that that tremendous impact is nothing more & nothing less than the beginning of a new Universe or the Big Boom!
Do you still consider Singularity Mechanics appealing?

2.Imagine nothing can take off Black hole.
What remains?
How to solve the problem?
Black hole then should be made of antimatter and thus have antigravity on things made of matter.
Where do we find Black holes made of antimatter?
In anti-universes!
What will humans do in anti-universe?
Maybe annihilate?

Why I mentioned frequency?
Imagine Wormhole joins our universe with some else universe.
Imagine their frequencies interfere, imagine, they are resonant, imagine.. whatever..


Excuses for bad English

[Jamski]

-Jam

[Illuminatus]

Antimatter has been proven, and manafactured, and it certainly doesn`t have antigravity properties. Magnetic and electric properties of antimatter are opposite to those of "ordinary" matter, thus an antimatter electron has positive charge (also known as positron), and antimatter proton has negative charge. Mass and all other properites of matter is same.
Wormholes are basically not two joined black holes, even as they are reffered as they can be made in a such way. It is proposed that at or below Planck level, spacetime continuum has a spongelike structure due to wormholes at subPlanck level, so they are proposed to exist, even as they are too unstable (and to small) for anything to travel through it. But even with ToR, several issues have to be dealt: how to deal with law of mass and energy preservation? Is energy irreversably lost when a body travels to other timeperiod? Does energy-mass quantitiy increase in time to which body is travelling or decrease in time which it left? Is energy pulled out from target periods during the act of timetravel, to balance out the quantities. Or the most important question on that matter, should we view time-space continuum as 4 dimensional system or as a 3+1 dimensional system (there is a difference).
Should termodinamic laws be viewed form a same perspective? Does quantity of chaos actually decrease by the act of time-travel? Or should it too be viewed as a 4 dimensional system?
Same goes for momentum as numerous other laws. What happens when particla comes into past when it existed as sth else? Would that mean that matter exists at two different places simultanuosly? Or is the "past" particle transmitted into future when "present" particle is missing? This is just a basic example of how it breaks physical laws.
Causability factor, can be bypassed if we travel oneway into future. We can`t make a paradox, if we act on things that are only going to happen. You can`t kill your parents, but can you kill your grandsons? Is time really a halfway-dimension, or is it linear in both ways?
Sorry for the spelling

[Snowflake]

Think ants, people.

They crawl in two dimensional space. They are aware of the third dimension, but it is unthinkable for them to imagine moving through that third dimension. One day they found that yes it IS possible to travel through the third dimension. For one ant had accidently dropped from a plate to another plate down below. So they believed that if you do it right, you could actually travel through the third dimension. But it is irreversible. You can travel down through the third dimension, but not up. And they even discovered theories to prove that point.

One day, they grow wings. And they fly. The world is suddenly a different place.

[Illuminatus]

A completely wrong assumption. Analogy can work for space dimension, perhaps we discover fourth or fifth dimension (as per superstring theory), an ways toa ccess it, but from our point of view such timetravel is impossible. We are forced to live linear. Perhaps time doesn`t even exist, and it is illusion that our brains create on fourth space dimension, to "differ" it from others. Who knows. But we will definetly never travel through time.

[Skanky Burns]

I am travelling into the future at the phenomenal rate of one second per second! Future, here I come!!!

[Snowflake]

You are not so different from a three dimensional ant obstructor. You see the next dimension that different because you haven't grown your wings yet.

Trust me. I know. I'm from another time.

[binTravkin]

Hear what some quite competent people think about time's nature:
Time is a continual movement from one universe to another and all those universes which we have gone through co-exist with this one we are right now.

This corresponds with that frequency theorem & if its true timetravel is possible & it wont have impact to future or nowadays to change events of past..

Time is also considered 4th dimension and it should be very close to truth as it posesses all attributes that dimension must have..